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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 19/Dec/2008 at 11:36am
Originally posted by Janak.merchant1

aur ek option u shud keep.
 
" Don't really know where v really stand"


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Noted. In the next poll, will keep such an option.

A bit out of context, here's a hilarious take on 'can't say'.



CAN'T SAY

All my school and college textbooks had emphasized that the world is divided
into two parts, the haves and the have-nots, or the Yeses and the Nos.
However, nowadays a new breed of human beings is emerging. These are the
'Can't says'.

Amongst the millions of opinion polls conducted, there must be at least 4 to
5 % of people who spend 5 Rupees per SMS or 10 Rupees per minute to ring up
the money making company to say, "You have asked whether Tendulkar will get
out in the 90s again. Well after considerable thought and sleepless nights,
I have come to the conclusion that I can't say. So I am spending 10 Rupees a
minute to tell you this earth shattering news."

Long, long ago, in the misty advertising past, some executive must have
asked the crucial question, "Our Opinion polls will rake in all the moolah
from people who have some opinion, but what about those who don't have any
opinion?" Then some bright upstart must have remarked, "Lets have a 'no
opinion' button." And that must have been the origin of this unique species
Homo Sapiens Cantsays! The weak opposition of some naysayers arguing that
those who have no opinion will not take part in an opinion poll must have
been crushed to chutney.

Entire article here

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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 08/Jan/2009 at 8:49am
I have this dreaded feeling that the lone voter under the category "Bull Trap" could probably be right.
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Quote hallmark Replybullet Posted: 09/Jan/2009 at 3:52pm
Who knows! We are in a bear market and I already bought.
 


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Quote rakeshmehta48 Replybullet Posted: 09/Jan/2009 at 8:34pm
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Not many people have voted. Not even 1%.

Okay, here's a warning: If you do not vote before Christmas, instead of goodies, Santaclaus may come with margin calls to you.
 
 
I saw this thread today only.
Anyhow not scared of margin calls.
Voting now.
 
 
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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 20/Jan/2009 at 9:59am

A bear market isn't over until investors have totally capitulated. I don't really think they have. What we've seen is that private investors--from the beginning of this year--have actually been coming back into the market. They haven't yet said: 'We're not going to touch equities for another year.' You need to see that level of bearishness. And I don't think we've seen it yet.
---HSBC's chief equity strategist Garry Evans


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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 25/Jan/2009 at 8:56am



I got an e-mail from a friend with these questions.......

Are we still in fear stage?

Would there be a possibility of Capitulation in near future? Possible in individual stocks. Index may not move down in the same proportion.

Will the Despair stage coincide with general elections?




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Quote samirarora Replybullet Posted: 26/Jan/2009 at 2:58pm
If i were to stick my neck out and make a call, which by itself is not scientific, but more so as a personal feeling.. and strictly from the graph represented, i would have to say that we are somewhere within capitulation and fear at this stage.
 
It is amazing to me, that people are selling off their stocks in a frenzy such as they are presently. The clever people already sold off long back, markets fell and now they would be looking to buy back at even cheaper prices such as represented now. What is the point of selling now, i dont understand, no doubt, one can make 10-20-30 percent by shorting, but one also risks going out of the stock altogether. So if there is a stock one believes in, but just to be able to participate , one things he/she should go short and buy back again, it could be a risky proposition.
With everyone shorting and being succesful at it, i think we are at very risky stage and market is going to punish this frenzy for sure.. possibly in the coming days.
 
I have noted that when we hit the october lows, mid/small caps were at certain lows, but now we have not yet hit the lows, but mid/small caps (many of them) are at even lower volumes and on a consistent day to day basis ( as opposed to one or two panic day sessions).
 
Further, people are selling off or punishing stocks that are actually showing better results than expected, some are showing better results , than would be expected in bull markets (ex. idea cellular, rallis india with 50 % QoQ ).
 
One needs to be very careful at this stage.. either you believe in the stocks you have, or you dont, and if you do, its best to be in them and not try to play games... of coarse, this is my humble opinion.
 
I am not trying to time the market, but i have doubled the size of my portfolio (capital invested wise) and also, have taken out the bad eggs (the ones in my opinion that were the bad eggs in my basket) and converted them into better performing stocks (historically) as its a good time to reshuffle i would say.
 
All graphs, and phases represented are based on historic happenings. It would be futile to forget that the recent upmove to 21000 sensex is unrepresented in history and hence what happens after that, is also unrepresented and hence it would be in my opinion a situation, where , the present is actually unchartered territory , and hence cannot be represented by looking into the past.
 
What if , we are in the bull run, but this is a major correction, which will lead upto even higher levels (timing is of coarse the question mark here).
No doubt FIIs left and state of economic affairs are not so great, but then, this coud all be just a cleaning up situation, where when the real bull run starts, it would be based on an even cleaner chit.
 
I was not bullish at all last year or year preceding that, as i thought that the bull run was going on like crazy with no regard to circumstances, but at these levels and all the cleaning up going on, i think we are going to soon have real good reasons for a bull run.
 
or maybe, i am just crazy?!?Approve
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Quote MissingLink Replybullet Posted: 28/Jan/2009 at 8:43pm

Source: http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/2009-cb-0126200828.gif

Compared to 1920's recession, looks like we are in fear stage. 



Edited by MissingLink - 28/Jan/2009 at 8:44pm
Missing a train is only painful if you run after it! Not Matching the idea of success others expect from you is only painful if thats what you are seeking.
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