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Quote Vivek Sukhani Replybullet Posted: 01/Jan/2008 at 10:01pm
Hi Smartcat,
 
Sensex is a very wrong Benchmark for TED XI. I cannot recall the TED XI stocks but as far as i could remember, not many constituents of TED XI are part of sensex. I think something like a BSE 200 should be a better reflector......by the way, have you worked out the alpha of TED XI?????
 


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Quote omshivaya Replybullet Posted: 01/Jan/2008 at 10:31pm

Actually, I personally feel TED XI should compare itself to BSE MIDCAP when markets are upwards and should compare with the sensex when markets are falling. That way we would get a real good feel of how TED XI is doing.



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I know what''s Beta. But what's Alpha? Do we have a Gamma too?
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 01/Jan/2008 at 6:18am
Alpha is the incremental return that aportfolio makes when compared to the general index/ market that it is tracking. If markets go up by 30% and your portfolio does 35% then alpha is 5%.
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Quote Vivek Sukhani Replybullet Posted: 01/Jan/2008 at 8:58am
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Alpha is the incremental return that aportfolio makes when compared to the general index/ market that it is tracking. If markets go up by 30% and your portfolio does 35% then alpha is 5%.
 
I believe its the excess of your risk-adjusted return over the return thrown by the benchmark. The key thing is risk adjusted return and not absolute return. So, even if the portfolio may throw 500 p.c. but if the risk adjusted return is 25 p.c. , alpha will be negative.
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Quote Vivek Sukhani Replybullet Posted: 01/Jan/2008 at 9:00am
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Actually, I personally feel TED XI should compare itself to BSE MIDCAP when markets are upwards and should compare with the sensex when markets are falling. That way we would get a real good feel of how TED XI is doing.

 
Why so? Although I do adhere to the principle of prudence but unnecessary conservation distorts the picture. What we are looking for is the true and fair view and not the performance under worst case scenario.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 01/Jan/2008 at 9:00am
Right => The CAPM model.
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