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Quote nitin_jagtap Replybullet Posted: 20/Jan/2008 at 8:37am
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On MCap/Sales basis, Sterling has higher valuation than Country Club. Also, i have never heard of Sterling Resorts but i can see aggressive advertising by Country Club.
 
PL had also given a buy on country club and also as their pick for 2008. The concept of country club is different from say Mahindra resorts, while country club is positioned as a club for the upper middle class where you can also buy a property in some of the resorts but Mahindra is positioned as a high end holiday resort with time sharing options and also the entry fees is much more than CC.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 20/Jan/2008 at 8:42am
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 Sterling Teak-lot of investors(not share market) lost their money in Sterling teak trees  a few years ago,I think.Is this not the the same management?Sterling has a resort in Ooty . Mahindra is  altogether a class apart.But still Sterling may be a value buy-(in a bull market all sorts of shares move up)- if the question marks on the management can be refuted.



If this is indeed true then we should not touch this company with a pole! There is nothing beyondmanagement integrity that distinguishes one company from another. How sure are we about the promoters of teak wood and resort being the same?
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Quote nitin_jagtap Replybullet Posted: 20/Jan/2008 at 9:18am
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 Sterling Teak-lot of investors(not share market) lost their money in Sterling teak trees  a few years ago,I think.Is this not the the same management?Sterling has a resort in Ooty . Mahindra is  altogether a class apart.But still Sterling may be a value buy-(in a bull market all sorts of shares move up)- if the question marks on the management can be refuted.



If this is indeed true then we should not touch this company with a pole! There is nothing beyondmanagement integrity that distinguishes one company from another. How sure are we about the promoters of teak wood and resort being the same?
 
 
Absolutley there should be no compromise in any case on management integrity .
 
This is what I got from their 06 ending annual report '

Rs.3,75,87,820/- (Rs.1,93,89,978/-) worth teak unit certificates of Sterling Tree Magnum India Ltd. in view of the potential interests shown by the customers of

Sterling Tree Magnum to exchange their teak units into Time Share Units, the Company (SHRIL) has floated a special scheme of sales for them. Under this, a part

of the sale consideration is received in the form of surrender / transfer of teak unit certificates to the Company. The accumulated net value of such teak units is

Rs.3,75,87,820/-'

As I recall it is the same team ...this was during the 90s when there was this big NBFC boom along with lot of teak plantation companies coming into the market....now most of these NBFCs and teak companies are closed and out of business.
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Quote kumarrvq Replybullet Posted: 21/Jan/2008 at 2:11pm
I was having no clue on how bad/good mgmt is? Line of business of the company and relative valuation was prime focus.
 
It is true that if driver of the bus is not good then irrespective of condition/model/make of bus, it is going to break down!!!
 
This company's mgmt doesn't seems to me as smart/loyal guys so better avoid this company.
 
 
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Quote mukesh Replybullet Posted: 21/Jan/2008 at 5:15pm
  • Mahindra Holidays & Resorts India Ltd = Mcap:4000Cr; Country Club (India) Ltd = Mcap: 821Cr but Sterling Holiday Resorts (India) Mcap is just 200Cr.
  • There is valuation gap, so Country Club and Sterling Holidays will catchup the.

I am expecting Sterling Holidays currently at Rs70 to move up and reach min 200+ by the time IPO of Mahendra Holidays comes (it is expected to come in Jan-Feb'08). So we can look at this stock as multibagger in couple of months.

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Well I am thoroughly confused with your argument. If  FY08 profit of Synergy is 12 Crores and apply the PE of Country Club ie 15 to  it gives the mkt cap of 180Cr. That means it is fairly valued. I cant understand why it will touch 200, as per this logic. please  help me out  



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Quote kumarrvq Replybullet Posted: 21/Jan/2008 at 8:08pm

Comparision was based on asset valuation (Resorts) gap not on PE front, you are right looking at Sales/Profit or PE it is well valued or even more now but when you look at their 15 resorts and compare them with 15 resorts of Club Mahendra, I feel there is no point in giving them 20 times less value compare to Club Mahendra's...anyway since Mgmt don't seems to be good so better avoid this company.

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Quote shontou Replybullet Posted: 29/Sep/2011 at 3:39pm
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          Sterling Holiday Resorts (India)
Expects to report operating profit in FY12


Sterling Holiday Resorts (India) held its AGM on Sep 28, 2011 at Chennai. The meeting was chaired by Siddharth Mehta, the Chairman of the company.

Key takeaways of the meeting

In the time share business the company is taking all efforts to recapture the market leadership in next 2-3 years. Refurbishment of the existing properties is thus the first priority, unless u refurbish to the required standard it's hard to sell. Secondly, it is adding more rooms to the room inventory which will be done through leasing model as of now. For the time being at least next 12 months, the company does not have any intention of going for acquisition/Greenfield properties.

Currently the company has 109000 time share members of which 56000 are active members. The company has about an aggregate dues to the extent of Rs 100 crore from non active/dormant members. Once refurbishment is over the company will try to bring them back to the fold.

Of the current total room inventory of 1258 about 600 rooms are getting refurbished. Refurbishment of each room will cost approx Rs 6 lakh per room.

The company planned to add 300 rooms to its inventory in FY12 and it has already added about 55 rooms with Thekady property and balance will be added during the course of time. The company is also looking at properties in overseas destination especially South East Asia for lease. Building a green field property is time consuming as it involves lot of approvals/clearances. All approvals alone will take about 18 months. So its better to go for lease model.

The company has paid off all its debts barring that of IFCI amounting Rs 10 crore. Even for that the company has deposited entire due and waiting for the litigation to clear.

The company has surplus land in 13 locations including places such as Goa, Puri, Mahabaleshwar, Corbet, Gangtok, Yelagiri, Coorg etc. Going forward the company can add new additional rooms when required.

Expects the company to return to profitability at operating level in FY12. Currently the occupancy level of its resorts has improved to 40-45% and this is good enough to clock operating profit.
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Quote rapidriser Replybullet Posted: 29/Sep/2011 at 6:07pm
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Has there been a change of Management in this co? The original promoters were either crooks or poor managers or both.
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