Sterling Holiday Resorts (India)
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Topic: Sterling Holiday Resorts (India)
Posted By: kumarrvq
Subject: Sterling Holiday Resorts (India)
Date Posted: 17/Jan/2008 at 10:52am
I have looked at this small cap company on 3 parameters i.e, Right business, Right promoters, Niche/Scale of business.
Business:-
- Sterling Holiday Resorts (India) is available at Rs70 (Mcap = 200Cr).
- They have 14 resorts across the country.
- The Mountains ->» Kodaikanal» Lonavala» Manali» Munnar» Mussoorie» Ooty» Darjeeling» Yelagiri» Yercaud
The Beaches-> » Goa» Mahabalipuram» Puri Pilgrimage Centers ->» Puri» Swamimalai
Management:-
- 32 lakhs (12% of total equity share of 2.7Cr) warrants issued to promoters at a price of Rs 73.16/-
Scale:-
- Time sharing resorts are new business in India, as of now only Country Club and Club Mahendra plays in this niche area. So scope of expension is much more since middle class consumption and life style is changing.
Trigger:-
- Mahindra Holidays & Resorts India Ltd., (MHRIL) a part of the Infrastructure Sector of the Mahindra Group, the company’s flagship brand ‘Club Mahindra Holidays’, today has a fast growing customer base of over 60,000 members and 15 beautiful Resorts at some of the most exotic spots in India and abroad.
- The pre-IPO placement deal values the leisure hospitality provider at around Rs 4,000 crore ($1 billion).
- MHRIL has filed for its IPO, which will see a sale of 10 million equity shares of Rs 10 each at a premium. This would constitute about 13 per cent stake of the fully diluted post-issue paid-up capital of the company.
- Country Club (India) Ltd another player in same business has Mcap of 821Cr. Sales 240Cr/Profit 60Cr FY08, PE=15.
- Sterling Holiday Resorts (India), Mcap = 200Cr, Sales 30Cr/Profit 12Cr approx FY08.
- Mahindra Holidays & Resorts India Ltd = Mcap:4000Cr; Country Club (India) Ltd = Mcap: 821Cr but Sterling Holiday Resorts (India) Mcap is just 200Cr.
- There is valuation gap, so Country Club and Sterling Holidays will catchup the.
I am expecting Sterling Holidays currently at Rs70 to move up and reach min 200+ by the time IPO of Mahendra Holidays comes (it is expected to come in Jan-Feb'08). So we can look at this stock as multibagger in couple of months.
Note: This company doesn't have internal strength i.e, I don't know abt the management, they have not done well in past, neither they are a sector leader but there is valuation gap which I can see as potential upside. Personally, I do not hold any stake in this company!!!
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 17/Jan/2008 at 11:56am
Interesting argument. Seems to make sense. Does any one have am idea of how big global companies have become. But this business should boom with growing income and demographic set up.
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Posted By: smartcat
Date Posted: 18/Jan/2008 at 12:01pm
There are global companies with market caps of $1 billion or so - all over the world. My only concern is competition from the unorganized sector. There is probably nothing that distinguishes a hotel/resort like this from a well run family run resort.
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Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 18/Jan/2008 at 12:18pm
On MCap/Sales basis, Sterling has higher valuation than Country Club. Also, i have never heard of Sterling Resorts but i can see aggressive advertising by Country Club.
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Posted By: jack
Date Posted: 20/Jan/2008 at 8:51pm
I was holding this shares during 90's period, it went up to Rs200, and it crashed like anything. Now attempting again to go up. Their accommodations are not par with Mahindra's, so it could not be compared with any yardstick with Mahindra's or Country club.
The most important thing is Management Issues. It seems to be very poor. They are struggling for so many years to bring back the business even though they are the first in time share concept in India.
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Posted By: kumarrvq
Date Posted: 20/Jan/2008 at 9:11pm
I too agree with you Jack, but I mentioned this company on only one parameter i.e valuation gap, Club Mahendra (Valuation = 4000Cr during IPO and looking at today's scenario it can be 6000-8000Cr while listing, in case if it get premium), so here is a company Sterling resort with similar number of resorts as Mahendra but available at Rs 200Cr only, doesn't it sounds different...
I mean Is Sterling resort should get 20 times less valuations than Club Mahendra!!!
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Harry
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Posted By: Ajith
Date Posted: 20/Jan/2008 at 9:56pm
Sterling Teak-lot of investors(not share market) lost their money in Sterling teak trees a few years ago,I think.Is this not the the same management? Sterling has a resort in Ooty . Mahindra is altogether a class apart. But still Sterling may be a value buy-(in a bull market all sorts of shares move up)- if the question marks on the management can be refuted.
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Posted By: nitin_jagtap
Date Posted: 20/Jan/2008 at 8:07am
Originally posted by kumarrvq
I too agree with you Jack, but I mentioned this company on only one parameter i.e valuation gap, Club Mahendra (Valuation = 4000Cr during IPO and looking at today's scenario it can be 6000-8000Cr while listing, in case if it get premium), so here is a company Sterling resort with similar number of resorts as Mahendra but available at Rs 200Cr only, doesn't it sounds different...
I mean Is Sterling resort should get 20 times less valuations than Club Mahendra!!! |
Yes the valuation comparison makes a case to look at sterling however we should also remember the fact that market in terms of stock valuation would reflect the future earning potential and will not consider past performance or for that matter the valuation of peers, at this stage Mahindra has projected a bright future in terms of earnings growth and that could help them quote at a rich premium, sterling may have the same number of properties but without any future plan or for that matter any visibility in earnings would not really enthuse the market.
A case in example would be the rerating of essar oil one rel petro went thorugh the roof here we have a company which will start production only in dec 08 whereas essaroil has already got an existing set up and refinery.
The case for investment in sterling had some in BS a few months back when it was around 55 rs and the same logic using MM was used , but I suppose market in its wisdom couldnt really buy this srguement to give such a big rerating for sterling.
Now at the end of the day in such market conditions sterling may outperform in the but without any future visibility market would get it back to where it was is my guess unless some major corporate action like stake sale or additional properties or sale of existing properties take place.
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Nitin Jagtap
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Posted By: nitin_jagtap
Date Posted: 20/Jan/2008 at 8:37am
Originally posted by deveshkayal
On MCap/Sales basis, Sterling has higher valuation than Country Club. Also, i have never heard of Sterling Resorts but i can see aggressive advertising by Country Club. |
PL had also given a buy on country club and also as their pick for 2008. The concept of country club is different from say Mahindra resorts, while country club is positioned as a club for the upper middle class where you can also buy a property in some of the resorts but Mahindra is positioned as a high end holiday resort with time sharing options and also the entry fees is much more than CC.
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Nitin Jagtap
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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 20/Jan/2008 at 8:42am
Originally posted by Ajith
Sterling Teak-lot of investors(not share market) lost their money in Sterling teak trees a few years ago,I think.Is this not the the same management?Sterling has a resort in Ooty . Mahindra is altogether a class apart.But still Sterling may be a value buy-(in a bull market all sorts of shares move up)- if the question marks on the management can be refuted. |
If this is indeed true then we should not touch this company with a pole! There is nothing beyondmanagement integrity that distinguishes one company from another. How sure are we about the promoters of teak wood and resort being the same?
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Posted By: nitin_jagtap
Date Posted: 20/Jan/2008 at 9:18am
Originally posted by basant
Originally posted by Ajith
Sterling Teak-lot of investors(not share market) lost their money in Sterling teak trees a few years ago,I think.Is this not the the same management?Sterling has a resort in Ooty . Mahindra is altogether a class apart.But still Sterling may be a value buy-(in a bull market all sorts of shares move up)- if the question marks on the management can be refuted. |
If this is indeed true then we should not touch this company with a pole! There is nothing beyondmanagement integrity that distinguishes one company from another. How sure are we about the promoters of teak wood and resort being the same? |
Absolutley there should be no compromise in any case on management integrity .
This is what I got from their 06 ending annual report '
Rs.3,75,87,820/- (Rs.1,93,89,978/-) worth teak unit certificates of Sterling Tree Magnum India Ltd. in view of the potential interests shown by the customers of
Sterling Tree Magnum to exchange their teak units into Time Share Units, the Company (SHRIL) has floated a special scheme of sales for them. Under this, a part
of the sale consideration is received in the form of surrender / transfer of teak unit certificates to the Company. The accumulated net value of such teak units is
Rs.3,75,87,820/-'
As I recall it is the same team ...this was during the 90s when there was this big NBFC boom along with lot of teak plantation companies coming into the market....now most of these NBFCs and teak companies are closed and out of business.
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Posted By: kumarrvq
Date Posted: 21/Jan/2008 at 2:11pm
I was having no clue on how bad/good mgmt is? Line of business of the company and relative valuation was prime focus.
It is true that if driver of the bus is not good then irrespective of condition/model/make of bus, it is going to break down!!!
This company's mgmt doesn't seems to me as smart/loyal guys so better avoid this company.
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Harry
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Posted By: mukesh
Date Posted: 21/Jan/2008 at 5:15pm
- Mahindra
Holidays & Resorts India Ltd = Mcap:4000Cr; Country Club (India)
Ltd = Mcap: 821Cr but Sterling Holiday Resorts (India) Mcap is just
200Cr.
- There is valuation gap, so Country Club and Sterling Holidays will catchup the.
I am expecting Sterling
Holidays currently at Rs70 to move up and reach min 200+ by the time
IPO of Mahendra Holidays comes (it is expected to come in Jan-Feb'08).
So we can look at this stock as multibagger in couple of months. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Well
I am thoroughly confused with your argument. If
FY08 profit of Synergy is 12 Crores and apply the PE of Country Club ie
15 to it gives the mkt cap of 180Cr.
That means it is fairly valued. I cant understand why it will touch 200, as per
this logic. please help me out
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Posted By: kumarrvq
Date Posted: 21/Jan/2008 at 8:08pm
Comparision was based on asset valuation (Resorts) gap not on PE front, you are right looking at Sales/Profit or PE it is well valued or even more now but when you look at their 15 resorts and compare them with 15 resorts of Club Mahendra, I feel there is no point in giving them 20 times less value compare to Club Mahendra's...anyway since Mgmt don't seems to be good so better avoid this company.
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Harry
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Posted By: shontou
Date Posted: 29/Sep/2011 at 3:39pm
AGM
Sterling Holiday Resorts (India)
Expects to report operating profit in FY12
Sterling Holiday Resorts (India) held its AGM on Sep 28, 2011 at Chennai. The meeting was chaired by Siddharth Mehta, the Chairman of the company.
Key takeaways of the meeting
In the time share business the company is taking all efforts to recapture the market leadership in next 2-3 years. Refurbishment of the existing properties is thus the first priority, unless u refurbish to the required standard it's hard to sell. Secondly, it is adding more rooms to the room inventory which will be done through leasing model as of now. For the time being at least next 12 months, the company does not have any intention of going for acquisition/Greenfield properties.
Currently the company has 109000 time share members of which 56000 are active members. The company has about an aggregate dues to the extent of Rs 100 crore from non active/dormant members. Once refurbishment is over the company will try to bring them back to the fold.
Of the current total room inventory of 1258 about 600 rooms are getting refurbished. Refurbishment of each room will cost approx Rs 6 lakh per room.
The company planned to add 300 rooms to its inventory in FY12 and it has already added about 55 rooms with Thekady property and balance will be added during the course of time. The company is also looking at properties in overseas destination especially South East Asia for lease. Building a green field property is time consuming as it involves lot of approvals/clearances. All approvals alone will take about 18 months. So its better to go for lease model.
The company has paid off all its debts barring that of IFCI amounting Rs 10 crore. Even for that the company has deposited entire due and waiting for the litigation to clear.
The company has surplus land in 13 locations including places such as Goa, Puri, Mahabaleshwar, Corbet, Gangtok, Yelagiri, Coorg etc. Going forward the company can add new additional rooms when required.
Expects the company to return to profitability at operating level in FY12. Currently the occupancy level of its resorts has improved to 40-45% and this is good enough to clock operating profit.
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Posted By: rapidriser
Date Posted: 29/Sep/2011 at 6:07pm
Shontou
Has there been a change of Management in this co? The original promoters were either crooks or poor managers or both.
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Posted By: gbhupesh
Date Posted: 29/Sep/2011 at 6:25pm
Originally posted by shontou
AGM
Currently the company has 109000 time share members of which 56000 are active members. The company has about an aggregate dues to the extent of Rs 100 crore from non active/dormant members. Once refurbishment is over the company will try to bring them back to the fold.
Of the current total room inventory of 1258 about 600 rooms are getting refurbished. Refurbishment of each room will cost approx Rs 6 lakh per room.
Expects the company to return to profitability at operating level in FY12. Currently the occupancy level of its resorts has improved to 40-45% and this is good enough to clock operating profit. |
This is the truth of Indian Timeshare Industry
109000 customer 1258 rooms ( 1258 * 52 = rooms for only 65416 weeks,customer)
If you ask management they will say as 56,000 customer has not paid their dues so they are not eligible for vacation, thus we have sufficient rooms for customer.
They could not provide reasonable service and number of rooms, still want to collect 100 Cr dues.
Initially it will be easy for them to come into profit as their customer start utilizing holidays.
Earning=
Earning from resort service (food etc) +
Annual maintenance fee +
recovery of dues.
To grow this business further they will need to sell new membership. That' when marketing (usually >25% of membership fee) and resort setup cost kicks-in thus moderation of profit.
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Posted By: manishwithted
Date Posted: 29/Sep/2011 at 8:29pm
i read somewhere that RJ and Radhakrishna Damani have invested 40 cr each ( i dont know at what price per share) for abt 7.1 % share each in the company. PE - Bay Capital partners had invested in the company and the original promoter had handed over the management to Bay Capital.
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Posted By: nannu_68
Date Posted: 29/Sep/2011 at 8:42pm
They have raised their utility charges for existing customers too.. am a member!!
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Posted By: FutureBull
Date Posted: 29/Sep/2011 at 10:29pm
will it be like VIP? as mgmt. got changed
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