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Quote binani_anand Replybullet Topic: Management - An insight into integrity!
    Posted: 05/Aug/2006 at 1:42pm

One most imp thing every investor should know about is company's management.Good management generally always deliver what they say and are investor friendly in long term. But generally what happen when a bull market starts,every thing is going up no body cares what co,s management is doing is right or wrong.The best example is HFCL,DsQ Soft(list is long),IN ICE bull Run prices of these comapnies has gone to 100 times. Now what happen we all knows well. HFCL(non promotor holding is 97%)Has made a prefe. allot. at 1200-1300 to kerry packer, where the money has gone no body knows,except management can tell you. On the other hand Infosys  management has always delivered what they say & always rewarded its shareholders.Now Prices are near to its all time high again at reasonable valuation on huge base  Agnst crazy valutaion what we have seen earlier.

Quality of the mangement & ability to deliver What they Say Is always one should look for when they invest in a COMPANY.


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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 05/Aug/2006 at 1:46pm
Great topic. I think that if one were to pick the top two managements in Indian corporate history they could be
 
1) N.R.Narayan Murthy
2) Deepak Pareikh
 
These two have NEVER cheated shareholders, never made preferential allotments, never lost on guidance, never been involved in any controversy.
 
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Quote Vivek Sukhani Replybullet Posted: 05/Aug/2006 at 1:55pm
Its like this, Mr. Anand, understanding management quality is also an skill in itself. There are many silent management in the universe of listed companies we have, but we rarely take note of them. I beleive the skill is to observe the subtle qualities of a management, whuch require very skilled eyes.There are management which though, dont divest their holding a bit, but are very defensive. Practically, all the MNCs fall in that category.Its not all about management policies and their adherence to that.You need to focus on their objectives, their growth-orientation.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 05/Aug/2006 at 2:05pm

While most of the MNC's have good management I am not so sure about the pharmaceutical ones.

Except Glaxo all MNC pharmaceutical companies have wholly owed subsidiaries. They have kept these companies to launch new drugs so that they can get 100% benefit from those new block buster drugs. Some like Pfizer have transferred the high revenue research business into these 100% subsidiaries.

And MNC’s have to be shareholder friendly by choice and not by chance. The parents are huge and generally large companies have good management. Unless you have a good management you cannot become large. It is somewhat like the chicken and the egg story.

Also these MNC’s have to pay higher dividend and reward shareholders because that is the only way actual money flows back. Everything else is merely a book entry.

Nevertheless MNC’s usually have clean, honest and transparent managements.

 

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Quote Vivek Sukhani Replybullet Posted: 05/Aug/2006 at 3:26pm
You are so very correct. You will come across many MNCs divesting or transferring theor undertakings to their private companies. But then, they do it for a fair consideration. I have come across at least 3 cases of such a thing.Actually, my take is on their financials and their concentration on their core activities.A case in point, will be ciba specialty, which has divested its Textile Effects business to Huntsman Inc.You will find that the sale consireation is coming close to Rs. 100 per share.of which a major chunk will be profit on transfer/sale.This company has negligible debt on its balance Sheet, abides by IFRS as far as its Accounting policies and dividend policies go.Although, it will be losing a major chunk of its turnover, yet I see it picking up from there through some take-overs. It has a beautiful subsidiary in the form of Diamond Dye-Chem, which is also very profitable.
 
Now what do you say for such a company.... you know the turnover will come down as will the profits. But then, the Balance Sheet is looking so very strong. Suggest what is to be done in this case??
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 05/Aug/2006 at 3:32pm
I have no idea on this company but will try and get back to you ASAP.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 14/Nov/2006 at 7:23pm
Bubblevision: From your past experince does a chart show a) whether a stock is being manipulated b) The Management is bad something that is subjective and cannot be easily known by Fundamental Analysis.

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Quote BubbleVision Replybullet Posted: 15/Nov/2006 at 12:12pm
Bubblevision: From your past experince does a chart show a) whether a stock is being manipulated b) The Management is bad something that is subjective and cannot be easily known by Fundamental Analysis
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Manipulation -
Anything can be manipulated only for a small period of time by some vested intrests in the market. It DOES NOT change the overall direction of the stock. However i have in the past seen something which has struck me. Ex 1 ) Stock - E-Serve intl.... It was historically a low volume stock with absolutely lack of interest. Date : 12-Apr-04.... Citi announces a open offer at a price significantlly higher the market.... Looking back a few days 06-Apr-04... A deal of volume 2.5 lac shares was struck.... Highly unusual...
 
The Charts shows those unusual volumes and an impending corpotate development.... i-flex is another stock which should be always be on the radar for such a development....
Titan is always being manipulated... as you already know... However the guy who manipulates Titan DOES NOT change the original direction of the stock... He does it only to ward off the "week hands" on the stock in short term.....
 
 
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Management of a company is something on which every one has an opinion on. So that way it is always reflected in the price of the stock at any given point of time.
 
 


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