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Quote sailor1980 Replybullet Posted: 14/Oct/2011 at 12:43pm
I have been tracking Ess Dee for last 2-3 months. The only reason that interested me is the fact that Sequoia picked up a small stake in around Jan'11 @~Rs440 and then added substantial stake (now total stake is around 6.7%) in Aug'11 @~Rs.220.

I understand that this is not the smartest way to invest. But, I trust these guys like Sequoia are like vultures who will scrutinize a company very well for months before investing and then sit on the board after making an investment. Recently, they picked up a good chunk in the company I work for and the main Sequoia guy has joined the board of directors. That Sequoia guy has been visiting our office and meeting the senior management for almost an year.

Another interesting thing is ESS DEE is in a boring business and is held by strong folks (promoters, FII and Corporates hold around 95%). It is not recognized by the street (retail junta holds a small amount). So, currently there is no frenzy. When ever there is PE re-rating, there could be great upside.

I would like to get the views of Teddies, if you guys currently see value in ESS DEE from 3-5 years perspective.

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Quote sailor1980 Replybullet Posted: 14/Oct/2011 at 6:18pm
Hi All,

I found this write up about ESS DEE..A little old..But still tells a lot of 'good things' about ESS DEE

http://www.valuenotes.com/buy/Two-attractive-mid-cap-stocks/172350/15040020.00/C
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Quote sajit Replybullet Posted: 14/Oct/2011 at 7:02pm
Fact that most of the shares are with promoters and institutions indicates that there is something right with this company..  Any idea on the poor performance in the last quarter?
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Quote sailor1980 Replybullet Posted: 14/Oct/2011 at 9:56am
The underperformance could probably be because of high aluminium prices...With global commodity cooling off, this underperformance many be a temporary phenomenon...at least I guess so... 
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Quote sailor1980 Replybullet Posted: 21/Nov/2011 at 6:08pm
Fall in Aluminium prices is good for packaging companies such as ESS DEE..

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/features/investors-guide/aluminium-prices-unlikely-to-rebound-amid-a-slowdown/articleshow/10793765.cms

I have started picking up ESS DEE from these levels

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Quote Hrishi Replybullet Posted: 21/Nov/2011 at 6:49pm
How is the mgmt?
Dividend payout is just 5.5%. And yield at CMP comes to 1.5%.

It had a straight fall from 480 Rs. to CMP of 130 Rs. Which is 70% fall, but then Aluminium corrected some 38% in this year.

Again packaging is not a big moat business. (This is my current understanding, correct me if I am wrong.)
So why to buy a small cap, with no dividend yield, commodity based company?

(For commodity play and turn around of macro, i will rather look at Sesa Goa.)


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