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Quote subu76 Replybullet Posted: 24/Aug/2009 at 7:09pm
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But when it does, the gains and the initial capital go straight into a debt MF, and stay there.
 
Smartcat, what is the funda behind locking the money in debt MF?
Are there no more preys to hunt?
 
It's not as if you bailed out the last time markets reached this level.


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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 24/Aug/2009 at 7:34pm

If you keep pumping all the gains back into stocks, you are never really "booking profits". Instead of moving from one stock to another, you might as well hold on to the stock that has given you so much returns.

Selling off and investing in another "cheap" stock (PREY) sounds great on paper - but when the market crashes, the docile prey will stab you in the stomach with its horns. 
 
I say, take the money off the table and run. And then wait for your time to enter the game again (after X years, not 3 or 4 months)
 
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Quote subu76 Replybullet Posted: 24/Aug/2009 at 7:42pm
smart cat, cheers.....if you can really practise this.....you'll be a genius.
 
Most of us are not able to resist other folks making money easily.
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Quote Hitesh Shah Replybullet Posted: 24/Aug/2009 at 8:38pm
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I say, take the money off the table and run....
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Or buy Chinese waterfall lamps that topple over onto your laptop...
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Quote subu76 Replybullet Posted: 24/Aug/2009 at 9:48pm
Smart cat bhai... i double checked....even Ben Graham suggested something similar....He said as the market rises investors can consider moving more and more money to high quality bonds. He also mentioned a few cautionary notes:
 
a. It will be very difficult.
b. You  may be locked out of big gains in the market. Apparently some automatic rule based trading funds lost out in this manner.
 
All in all, this will be an interesting learning experience for all of us as well.
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Quote Monkey Replybullet Posted: 24/Aug/2009 at 12:25pm
Has anyone really practised it in a big way? I mean fully booked profits and fully sit out for couple of years? I guess it is emotionally quite difficult to do.
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Quote go4sheel Replybullet Posted: 24/Aug/2009 at 1:20am
Hi Smartcat,
Any idea about Marg ltd., value unlocking in its port subsidary...?

Also concern about Adani Enterprise...
Although management has given guidance of Rs.1200cr profit this year from Rs.500cr still the stock is not moving...?
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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 24/Aug/2009 at 11:29am
You  may be locked out of big gains in the market. Apparently some automatic rule based trading funds lost out in this manner.
 
Funds will have to show cash as part of the portfolio. Individuals don't need to consider the cash component at all, for calculation of their returns.
If you feel otherwise, just assume that you are a MF portfolio manager and your portfolio size has reduced because of large scale redemptions!  
 
Has anyone really practised it in a big way? I mean fully booked profits and fully sit out for couple of years? I guess it is emotionally quite difficult to do.
 
I plan to have a rule based (div yield at market price) selling , rather than a "analysis of future prospects of the stock" based selling. The "analysis" part is done only during buying, not selling. The problem with using your discretion for selling would be that you will probably never sell a small cap stock that has gone up 4 times, because you will be dreaming of bigger rewards.
 
Because of rule based selling, one will always have some percentage of portfolio in stocks - since all the stocks won't rise up at the same pace. That will keep you interested in stock markets. It's only when you are 90 - 100% in cash, you will feel like doing something stupid.
 
Any idea about Marg ltd., value unlocking in its port subsidary...?

Also concern about Adani Enterprise... Although management has given guidance of Rs.1200cr profit this year from Rs.500cr still the stock is not moving...?
 
I always wonder how a tiny company called Marg can build ports, power plants, SEZs etc etc. It's a wait and watch stock, according to me.
 
hee hee.. 2 years back, brokerages were estimating a net profit of Rs. 2000 cr for Adani Enterprises by FY10.
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