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GBN - WHatever it takes! Printed From: The Equity Desk Category: Investment Ideas - Creating winning portfolios! Forum Name: Emerging companies - Mid caps that can become large cap Forum Discription: These are companies operating in growing markets having have certain niches or specific attributes like new sector plays. These are emerging multibaggers with high risks and high rewards. URL: http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=696 Printed Date: 19/Apr/2025 at 9:23pm Topic: GBN - WHatever it takes! Posted By: basant Subject: GBN - WHatever it takes! Date Posted: 08/Jan/2007 at 9:42am
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Basantjee,
What's your opinion whether one should apply for this IPO or there will be better opportunity to buy this on listing due to poor response?
Nitin
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This http://business-standard.com/common/storypage_c.php?leftnm=10&autono=271337 - BS article is interesting
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but even if Gbn lists below its listed price ..it is still a god buy.........Basantji please tell us what do u think.....??? |
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Thanks basantjee.
I was thinking of stopping payment considering the response.But the last day subsriptions definetly proved you correct.
Now a days ,these so called experts on many channels are saying that retail investors should check the oversubscription fig. and then only invest.But if the oversubscription changes so drastically on the last date then how can one determine between good issues and over priced ones.
I don't know what they will say in such situations.
One expert who is an expert on IPO's told on NDTV profit the other day that retail investors should apply only if QIB/FII subscription is more than10 times!
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Mind-blowing subscription for GBN issue.It will have effect on Network 18.. ------------- "You don't need to be a rocket scientist. Investing is not a game where the guy with the 160 IQ beat the guy with a 130 IQ. Rationality is essential"- Warren Buffett |
One expert who is an expert on IPO's told on NDTV profit the other day that retail investors should apply only if QIB/FII subscription is more than10 times!
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This oversubscription figure (50 times) is without any FII investing into the company. Now these FII's would have to buy from the market (if the company allows them to invest). The foreign limit is 26% maybe the company would like to keep it secure and prohibit any FII investment. If that is so it would indicate that sometime down the line Time Warner would be intersted. We need to watch this space closely. Now what would FII's do in that case buy Network 18? But there is very little FII gap available there. ![]() ------------- 'The Thoughtful Investor: A Journey to Financial Freedom Through Stock Market Investing' - A Book on Equity Investing especially for Indian Investors. Book your copy now: www.thethoughtfulinvestor.in |
but most of the IPO subscribers would sell in the opening ..socan watch the openign and buy some more i think before FII react to that...... |
There is some news about the registar for GBN in some sort of trouble and there being a halt/delay in the allotment of shares Direct from ET: ET has learnt that NSDL and CDSL may be asked to halt allotment of shares to investors in IPOs where the contract between the companies and Intime was signed after August 18, 2006. This could hit some the allotment processes of IPOs like House of Pearls Fashions, Global Broadcasting Network and Cinemax. Since the case is subjudice, officials at both registrars were unable to comment. You can have a complete look here http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Battle_of_registrars_SC_quashes_Intime_appeal/articleshow/1462612.cms - http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Battle_of_registrars_SC_quashes_Intime_appeal/articleshow/1462612.cms Even though the primary market is upbeat and most IPOs being heavily over-subscribed, there is a definite lack of credible registrars and share transfer agents in the market. ------------- It's not whether you're right or wrong that's important, but how much money you make when you're right and how much you lose when you're wrong - George Soros |
Basantjee,
Since I didnot get any allotment in the IPO,What would be the price to entry at comfortable level looking at thw stock in long term say about 2 years perspective.
Further if one already holds TV18/NW18 is it worthwhile investing in GBN ?
Given a choice which one would you prefer among the three i.e TV18,NW18 or GBN?and why?
Nitin
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prnpani ...it is ok...as people would have not got more than 25 shares...so everyone can buy....but again Basant ji is the only person who can help Bsantji ..what price are u comfortable buying it ........ |
GBN lists at 450+. Valuation of 1200 cr +
Good listing.. |
Revenue growth to be driven by CNN-IBN: GBN
2007-02-08 10:09:19 Source : Moneycontrol.com
http://www.moneycontrol.com/india/stockpricequote/mediaentertainment/globalbroadcastnews/10/14/pricechartquote/marketprice/GBN - Global Broadcast News , GBN, owners and operators of one of India’s leading 24-hour English language news and current affairs channel – CNN-IBN, has listed with fantastic premium of 75% over its offer price of Rs 250 per share on the NSE. < ="http://202.87.40.52/promos/sponsor_news.js">Joint MD of Global Broadcast News, Sameer Manchanda and Editor-in-Chief of CNN-IBN, Rajdeep Sardesai share their views. Manchanda believes that CNN-IBN will be the major growth driver and greater visibility is seen from CNN-IBN's operations. Furthermore, the management believes that the company does not need fresh capital for current operations. Also, further capital raising will depend on expansion plans. Excerpts of CNBC-TV18's exclusive interview with Sameer Manchanda and Rajdeep Sardesai:
Manchanda: We are in compliance with the guidelines, which is 26%. In fact our foreign holding is only 9%. But I would still ask investors to look at the I&B guideline and verify themselves, but we are in compliance with the I&B guidelines. Q: What will drive growth for GBN? Is it going to be driven largely by CNN-IBN or do you have new product launches planned, which may drive revenue growth in the next year? Manchanda: CNN-IBN, of course, because if one looks at the ratings of last two weeks; we are the number one with a gap of more than 20%, and revenues chase viewership. So the growth would come in from CNN-IBN but that growth is visible. So, growth is certain and the growth is for the expansion of the channels. Q: As you see it, when do you think operations can break even at EBITDA level and what sort of margins do you think a company like GBN can sustain? Manchanda: Our quarterly results come out soon and we have done fairly well in ratings even for the last six months; we are seeing great visibility. Q: Put the operations as they stand into perspective. What are the plans for the IBN7 part of the business? Q: You have English news and Hindi news right now, what is the next big step for GBN from programming and product perspective?
Q: What will IBN7’s impact be on the numbers? We believe that that might take a bit longer, given market dynamics to break even. Do you feel that it would that be a drag on GBN’s numbers? Manchanda: We are building up IBN7 today. In the Hindi market, if you look at the ratings, the number three & four channels are approximately at 12-13% market share and we are at about 10%. So once we reach that market, which is fine then we should be doing well. But till that mark, there will be a bit of a drag but it is not substantial, and that’s another factor for another 3-6 months. Q: Map out the growth in terms of ad and subscription revenues, both in terms of the ad rates you have now vis-à-vis your competition, and the increase you see from the subscription side. Manchanda: The next big thing is the addressability, which the government and the courts have brought about. I think that’s a silent revolution happening. With further technology like IPTV and mobile coming in, that could be a big windfall or a change for the entire media sector and if all broadcasters and the big players are in there. There are approximately 70 million homes. In fact, they are saying there are already going to be 100 million TV sets. The market is large and even Rs 200, which they are paying, is about Rs 2000 crore a month. So Rs 24,000 coming into system would actually rechange the entire media sector. Of course, news would be a major beneficiary too and we will be a part of that. So subscription would be a big upside in the years to come definitely. If you look at CNN-IBN channel - I don’t have exact numbers, which have come in on the addressable homes that have just gone in Mumbai, Delhi - but according to the feedback, we are nearly in about more than 80% of the home, so that should be good number. As far as ad rates go, we are the only one-year-old channel. So our ad rates can grow substantially from where we are today because now we have got the ratings. Hopefully, the next ad rates’ increase in 3-6 months would give us the rates of the leader. Right now, we do not have the rates of the leader but it seems that will change. So we are very clear, our growth is robust and our growth would be definitely higher then any other average media sector. Q: Would GBN be primarily a news broadcasting play entity from a product perspective or do you have possible forays into things like maybe even print or Internet properties or non-news genre kind of products? Sardesai: Not non-news, but the media vehicle could change, it could grow in the direction of internet, mobile - using other technologies already on internet on ibnlive.com today, gets more hits and page views. There are other news websites in the country but our core competence is news. So we believe we would like to stick to our core competence in news. All the various media vehicles available today, as technology allows us to do that, we will exploit that through our news expertise. We know news that is in our DNA and we believe there is a huge hunger for information and we would like to satisfy that. Our goal is to make this India’s premier news and information space that is what we would like to do - have GBN’s focus on news, which is what we do best. Q: A final quick word on capital raising - do you need to raise any capital under the GBN umbrella over the next 2-3 quarters? Manchanda: It depends upon the growth plan, which we finalize. Not for the current properties, not at all, we are fine; we are definitely cash surplus so that is okay. It depends on the growth chart that we chart out for ourselves and we will be able to share that with you in the next 2-3 months, it will be only for that, not otherwise.
So Rs 24,000 crore coming into system would actually rechange the entire media sector . So subscription would be a big upside in the years to come definitely. Basant , that would do wonders to the Media Sector? |
Manchanda: The next big thing is the addressability, which the government and the courts have brought about. I think that’s a silent revolution happening. With further technology like IPTV and mobile coming in, that could be a big windfall or a change for the entire media sector and if all broadcasters and the big players are in there
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With this kind of a an answer broadcasting stocks (leaders) are a no brainer. I mean I can only dream about the kind of gains these companies can make in say 3-4 years.
I think Network18 and TV18 are better placed since they are not astronomically priced but GBN would also continue to create significant wealth.
WHile looking at broadcasting stocks please buy the leader only. WHen in doubt stay out but buy nothing but the leader. This is because under the CAS regime the lower rung companies in the sector would not be able to charge from the customers to the extent that the leaders would be able to.In many cases they would have to remain free to air to survive.
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Basant, GBN , did not fall yesterday instead was quite steady , today is up 5% , seems like is ready for a move , any NEWS on it?
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Reliance Capital acquires 6 % stake in GBN
MUMBAI: Anil Ambani group company Reliance Capital Ltd has acquired over six per cent stake in Global Broadcast News Ltd (GBN), which operates the English news channel CNN-IBN and Hindi channel IBN7. Reliance Capital acquired 16.75 lakh shares, representing 6.27 per cent stake of Global Broadcast News through an open market transaction on BSE on Monday. |
GBN has been on a rocket ever since it has started trading. Most of the participants had written off the stock at Rs 250 so at Rs 600 we need not guess what their opinion would be. While the longer term story is as bright as it was the company does defy fundamentals on a relative basis. I would rather switch into TV18 and Network 18 then remain with GBN at these valuations.
Now GBN could go anywhere. Out of the total free float of 15% Rel Cap has already taken up 6% so we are left with a paltry 9% which works out to about 24 lac shares. The daily traded volume on both the exchanges is in multiples of that. Now is there some kind of price rigging happening here. I do not think so but markets are not EPS and PE all the time they are also demand and supply and the economic reasons are playing more then the fundamental ones right now and would also continue to play that way.
On the other hand what we need to realise as investors is that if someone has not bought this stocks he should not buy it now unless he is prepared to experience a quotatinal loss of 20%. Over a period of 2-3 years all good media companies could go anyhwere.
The recent sensex surge has been led by media and Bubblevision can add to this but I get a feeling that this could be one of the leading sectors of the market if the CAS roll out is in place or even without that TV broadcasting companies would outperform the market. ------------- 'The Thoughtful Investor: A Journey to Financial Freedom Through Stock Market Investing' - A Book on Equity Investing especially for Indian Investors. Book your copy now: www.thethoughtfulinvestor.in |
Basant sir, any update on that analysis you had promised of the CAS effect on TV18, NTWK18 by 2010?
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Some very valid and interesting observations Basantji.
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Unfortunately there is no seperate "Media Index" in India as yet but some media stocks are present in BSE TECk index. That Index closed just 1% below its Recent highs indicating that there is Higher Relative Strength in the Tech and Media stocks then the Sensex.
Interestingly Pure Technology indices like CNXIT and BSE IT.. closed at their rally highs (High since Apr-2001) indicating undisputable strength. All of them are still in their Long Term Uptrends.
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I had the fun of riding this 130 pointer .with GBN defying the odds it has raced to 600.,there is lot of steam left but decided to reduce the my stand and increase tv18 exposure today..now doesnt tv18 hold some stake in GBN...or the market doesnt know this.What is the %age holding ofnetwork 18 & Tv18 in GBN . |
I suggest you could hold on to GBN since you hold a diversified portfolio. TV18 holds GBN but that is to be transferred to NW18 after that TV18 will have no GBN and it is always profitable to hold focused players.
In case you have sold out of GBN then you may divide between the other two companies TV18 and NW18.
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yes i hold 1000 of GBN still.. and bought few more in Tv18 and networK.This correction was a blessing in disguise..but things can roll back also...but keep adding .I dont know if GBn is goign to move like Techmahindra.But lets see..it is hot right now.. |
i hold 1000 of GBN still.. and bought few more in Tv18 and network.
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I wonder why all 3. Just one is sufficient. NW18 not only represents value in tv18, GBN but it has promise of home shopping and film media. As I said it before nw18 is HDFC of media sector. ------------- Don't bet on pig after all bull & bear in circle. |
Yes vipul Ji ..i was not sure of this ...in the correction i had got rid off some stocks(here the 10% cash did help me here)...so had bought Net18 and GBN and Tv18...the least number is GBN..i had just bought it ..it was just that the next day it hit upper ckt(i had no idea about it)..so i have converted most of it in Tv18 and network 18 by selling GBN ..but Tv18 didnt move much like NW18 ..dont people know Tv18 hold some stakes in GBn or that could happen soon...please advice |
i just some reports that reliance communication going to relay CNN - IBN and tv18 channel ...Basantji can u please confirm this ....i am not sure...it was a news flash..i might be wrong ...but jsut wanted to check |
That is old news are they flashing it now?This deal happened in December 2006!!! ------------- 'The Thoughtful Investor: A Journey to Financial Freedom Through Stock Market Investing' - A Book on Equity Investing especially for Indian Investors. Book your copy now: www.thethoughtfulinvestor.in |
GBN is down 10%. The stake transfer from Tv18 into NW18 could happen anytime over the next few weeks. For Network 18 shareholders they would like to see GBN down rather then up when they buy Tv18's holding of around 18% in GBN.
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Is the stake sale happening at market price? Somehow I dont feel that the transfer will happen at market price.
In any case, the amount of loss of Network 18 would be gain of TV18.. |
And for TV18 shareholders Basant sir?![]() ------------- The most important quality for an investor is temperament,not intellect.A temperament that neither derives great pleasure from being with the crowd nor against it |
Since I am invested into both companies it should not matter but prduent norms imply that the stake sale be conducted at market rates. ------------- 'The Thoughtful Investor: A Journey to Financial Freedom Through Stock Market Investing' - A Book on Equity Investing especially for Indian Investors. Book your copy now: www.thethoughtfulinvestor.in |
Seems like Raghav is trying to consloidate his holdings in Network 18 ------------- Be fearful when others are greedy and be greedy when others are fearful. |
with the post IPO valuations doubts generated thanks to Atlanta, GBN has corrected substantially for the first time. Hope for some more downside, of you are a NW 18 share-holder, but the floating equity in GBN is very low.... ------------- There are two times in a man's life when he should not speculate-when he can't afford it and when he can-Happy investing! |
but if hold both u will loose one and gain in another..i think research reports are not out on Network 18.these reports do help people buy but they dont tell u when to sell....it had a shrp fall today..further correction may give a good entry i guess... |
sugggest exit from GBN ------------- There are two times in a man's life when he should not speculate-when he can't afford it and when he can-Happy investing! |
Nothing wrong with GBN if yu are a long term investor but relatively I find better value in NW18 and TV18. Putting this post again.
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u know the thing is Atlanta has spooked investors so they will exit all new listings...not everyone is Teddy ...so i agree with Basantji |
GBN is finding some demand from not only reliance but other MF's as well. See this link. AFter accounting for this the floating stock is close to 20 lac shares and decreasing!!!
http://www.moneycontrol.com/mf/user_scheme/mfholddetail_sec.php?sc_did=GBN - http://www.moneycontrol.com/mf/user_scheme/mfholddetail_sec.php?sc_did=GBN
I was surprised (shocked) to see Pru ICICI in this list. DId not the head of this fund raise an alarm a few months back. BTW they also bought some Tv18 in their Pru ICICIServices fund. Oh Yes!
http://www.valueresearchonline.com/funds/comres.asp - http://www.valueresearchonline.com/funds/comres.asp
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Raghav
Bahl's Global Broadcast to foray into regional news channels, Marathi
the first launch (2 April 2007 10:00 pm) MUMBAI: In the race for launching regional news channels, TV18 Group promoter Raghav Bahl seems to have finalised his first step. He is planning to launch a Marathi news channel under Global Broadcast News (GBN), the company that houses English news channel CNN-IBN. GBN is likely to partner with a media company for the venture, a source close to the company says. "The plan is to tie up with a media player. This will involve an equity relationship as well. The finer details are being worked out," he adds. Bahl had earlier told Indiantelevision.com that he was closely examining the regional news space as an important growth segment. Under TV18 fall the two business channels CNBC TV18 and Awaaz, while GBN will hold all ventures in the general news space. The Marathi regional news space will see a flurry of action. Zee has already launched Zee 24 Taas as part of its "region-specific strategy." Other players keen to enter are Star Ananda and Hyderabad-based TV9. Also eyeing the regional news space is India TV which recently announced it would launch in Gujarati and Punjabi languages within a year. GBN, which captures the revenues from CNN-IBN and Hindi news channel IBN 7, has identified expansion in the area of regional news channels. The company is eyeing opportunities in the southern languages as well, the source says. Source: http://us.indiantelevision.com/headlines/y2k7/apr/apr23.php - http://us.indiantelevision.com/headlines/y2k7/apr/apr23.php ------------- Often we forget there's a company behind every stock,and there's only one reason why stocks go up. Companies go from doing poorly to doing well or small companies grow to large companies. P Lynch |
Hi Basant sir, Thanks for your reply. The general news channels will see very good days in coming years. The events like state elections and general election will keep them busy and healthy. The news channels always peek during the general elections. |
Our democratic set up with 27+ states (lost count of the number because they always keep breaking it up) ensures a stable flow of elections each year plus thanks to the general election and the coalition Govt. the setting is ideal for a news channel.
But stocks would not go up because of an election because it is the same thing as arguing that more fans and AC's would be sold in summer or less cement being sold during monsoon.
Stocks go up for unexpected reasons not for reasons that all of us can forecast with 100% accuracy. Still because of that set up news channels could sell at high PE's not necesarily jump up before elections. ------------- 'The Thoughtful Investor: A Journey to Financial Freedom Through Stock Market Investing' - A Book on Equity Investing especially for Indian Investors. Book your copy now: www.thethoughtfulinvestor.in |
Lotus India Tax fund has bought Global Broadcast news. People would remember how it cautioned investors not to invest at Rs 250 during the IPO. I sometimes find this right to take two contradictory decisions in one day very very disturbing.
At the time of issue Ashok Kumar the CEO indicated outstanding litigation as the main reason for avoiding the issue. Nothing has changed between then and Lotus initiating positions in this one.
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Basant jee,
Everybody in stock market has 2 views (including me). One for buy side and one for sell side. In markets, price is function of demand & supply. Fundamental is all-rounder argument. One can use same fundamental data to make case for sell and buy. So market analyst use fundamental shastra to serve their own purposes more then ours. Seeing demand supply situation these people change stance on fundamentals only to leave aam aadmi confused.
Now, I have developed a skill (still in beta phase), After a interview I can figure out if he/she is looking to buy/sell/hold.
Watching/listening to business channel is like listening to constant noise. One can best avoid. Since, FEB I am practicing ... ![]() ------------- Don't bet on pig after all bull & bear in circle. |
Lotus India Tax fund is not managed by Ashok Kumar. In fact Ashok kumar does manage LOTUS KNOWLWEALTH PVT LTD which is different from the mutrual fund that I referred to in the above post.
I was informed of the discrepency in an email from Ashok Kumar and I do apologize for the inadvertant mistake on my part. The relevant part of his email read as under:
"it is only fair that you be informed that our company LOTUS KNOWLWEALTH PVT LTD has no connection whatsoever with Lotus AMC and its tax fund". ------------- 'The Thoughtful Investor: A Journey to Financial Freedom Through Stock Market Investing' - A Book on Equity Investing especially for Indian Investors. Book your copy now: www.thethoughtfulinvestor.in |
Thank you for that honest initiative & update Basant sir.
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I also felt that Tax Fund was not being managed by Ashok but then i was not sure....Btw...Ashok visits this site....hmmmmmmmmm........does he still remain sceptical on GBN or has he changed his views after the performance of this stock on the bourses.... ------------- "You don't need to be a rocket scientist. Investing is not a game where the guy with the 160 IQ beat the guy with a 130 IQ. Rationality is essential"- Warren Buffett |
global broadcast has announced that it shall raise funds to the tune of 200 million in the international mkts. source-----www.bseindia.com ------------- understanding both the power of compound return and the difficulty getting it is the heart and soul of understanding a lot of things |
US $ 200 mn is quite a lot. It is equal to 60% of its market cap! If you add the proposal to raise Rs 1500 crores in debt it amounts to around 1 times maket cap further on.So net net the idea is to raise funds equalling 160^ of market cap (maximum)
I remember Tv18 had similar fund raising plans in 2004 and I could not understand why a company wanted to raise funds equal to its market cap. We all know how Tv18 has come around from there on.
Major expansion plans seems to be on the anvil!!!!
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I am really excited to see how they raise US $ 200 million. reason is as follows:
GBN is held by NW18 39% and Tv18 17%. These two have FII holdings of 18% and 13% respectively so effectively GBN has an FII holdiong of (39%*13*+18%*17%) = 8.13%.
So FII's can invest a maximum upto 26.00% - 8.13%= 17.87%. On an expanded equity capital (after issue) this amounts to 60 - 61 lac shares. Present equity is 2.67.
So Rs 840 crores for 60 lac shares means the company is looking at a placement price of Rs 1350-1400 per share!!!
I am eager to know the conversion price and also understand where I have been wrong (if that conversion price is different from current price)
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Plan is to raise capital up to USD 200 million by way of international offerings i.e Rs 900 crore only.
Please clarify 'If you add the proposal to raise Rs 1500 crores in market cap it amounts to around 1 times maket cap further on. So net net the idea is to raise funds equalling 160^ of market cap (maximum)'
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Rs1500 crores is borrowing powers over this see the bse site announcements!!! ------------- 'The Thoughtful Investor: A Journey to Financial Freedom Through Stock Market Investing' - A Book on Equity Investing especially for Indian Investors. Book your copy now: www.thethoughtfulinvestor.in |
Do you mean there is no FII holding as on date.
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Approval of borrowing power u/s 293(1)(d) is necessary, in case raising of funds of US $ 200 mn is through convertible bonds. The normal procedure of fund raising in international market is convertible bonds.
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Yes right now there is no direct FII holdings . ------------- 'The Thoughtful Investor: A Journey to Financial Freedom Through Stock Market Investing' - A Book on Equity Investing especially for Indian Investors. Book your copy now: www.thethoughtfulinvestor.in |
If FII holding in GBN is allowed upto 17.87%,FII holding in NW 18 and TV 18 will have to be capped.
Do you think management will cap FII holding in TV 18? However such holding in NW 18 has been capped as you earlier mentioned.
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I think FII holding is capped in TV18 as well or very near to it. Please note that if it is not capped then lesser shares will be issued meaning higher conversion price!!! ------------- 'The Thoughtful Investor: A Journey to Financial Freedom Through Stock Market Investing' - A Book on Equity Investing especially for Indian Investors. Book your copy now: www.thethoughtfulinvestor.in |
FII holding in TV 18 is 17.56% as on 31/03/07.
Now is capped.
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But I think fund raising plan will be limited to US $ 200 mn. As I earlier mentioned raising of borrowing power is to accomodate US $ 200 mn. |
How they are going to maintain their holding in the company, atleast to 51% of the expanded capital as after the proposed issue their stake is likely to come down to 46%. |
Holding does not matter because accounts are consolidated on the basis of managerial control backed by shareholder's agreement even in Tv18 NW18's holding has come down to 49.13% ------------- 'The Thoughtful Investor: A Journey to Financial Freedom Through Stock Market Investing' - A Book on Equity Investing especially for Indian Investors. Book your copy now: www.thethoughtfulinvestor.in |
now for a lay man like me does that mean thatthe stock price of gbn is going to rise to the level at which they do the placement.as yu have said before valuations are already stretched beyond imagination .also if the price is going to move up that should help the valuations of nw18 which shall become even more valuable.can anyone explain ------------- understanding both the power of compound return and the difficulty getting it is the heart and soul of understanding a lot of things |
Prices should go up and Network18 should participate. But GBN is not about EPS as I mentioned before. There is no floating stock so if they create a good business the stock will be in serious demand. ------------- 'The Thoughtful Investor: A Journey to Financial Freedom Through Stock Market Investing' - A Book on Equity Investing especially for Indian Investors. Book your copy now: www.thethoughtfulinvestor.in |
so the environment for nw18 to really comand its true valuations are all in place but when it comes to price movement that is not yet happening. ------------- understanding both the power of compound return and the difficulty getting it is the heart and soul of understanding a lot of things |
GBN reported a classic turnaround in Q4 of Fy07 - though IBN& is still in a loss stand alone GBN numbers were better then anyone's expectations. Fy08 could be the time where the company experiences huge operating leverage. Company would start getting subscription revenues now since it has recently gone pay and the management's projection of beating Tv industry Adv growth rate (21%) indicates good times ahead.
Company will indicate its plans in a few days.
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