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Topic: Engineering Design Outsourcing
Posted By: Equity Buff
Subject: Engineering Design Outsourcing
Date Posted: 27/Oct/2006 at 8:28pm
 
Dear All,
 
Interesting Article pasted below from Value Notes. Let us identify companies which can benefit.
 
Rgds
Equity Buff.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Engineering Design Outsourcing: The Next Wave After BPO/IT

Despite the sizeable opportunity, the future potential of the offshore outsourcing industry in India is likely to be severely restrained by manpower availability. A NASSCOM report recently predicted that India would face acute labor shortages in the next two to three years, especially in knowledge driven industries.

The opportunity:
A NASSCOM- Booz Allen Hamilton Report suggests that offshoring of engineering design will represent a $50 billion opportunity for India by 2020
A recent ValueNotes report shows that http://www.valuenotes.biz/bpo/autodesign.asp - Automotive Design Offshoring itself is likely to be a $1 billion opportunity for India by 2010

These and other issues were taken up for discussion at an event organized by NASSCOM in Pune last week, on "Engineering Design Outsourcing: The Next Wave After BPO/IT". Participants consisted of NASSCOM committee members, senior managers from companies actively involved in 'global engineering' (Infotech, Neilsoft, Emerson, Onward, Geometric, KPIT Cummins, Praj, Sandvik) and representatives from engineering colleges all over the city.

Engineering outsourcing: the next wave?

Drivers for greater engineering outsourcing to India in future:
Demand side
Cost pressures on outsourcers
Increasing speed to market
Supply side (India advantage)
Large engineering talent pool
Low cost production base
Proven IT/ITES capabilities
English language skills

The speakers unanimously agreed that India has a great opportunity in delivering engineering services to the world. Certain drivers (see box) coupled with increasing cost pressures are making global sourcing a strategic imperative for engineering companies. Besides, on the supply side, India is well positioned to deliver value to global players. An important contributing factor is an engineering legacy in India, led by success in sectors such as defense, rail, civil engineering and aerospace.

Thanks to early efforts like creating IITs, and privatizing engineering colleges, engineering education has grown to be highly respected and has a status value attached to it in society. Further, education is relatively affordable (compared to that abroad), which makes an engineering degree one of the preferred areas of education. India produces more than 200,000 engineering graduates every year.

"Swarm" vs. "Specialized"

Despite the numbers, the 'quality' of talent available has been the main cause of concern for recruiters. With the IT and BPO industry flourishing in India, young engineering graduates have plenty of career alternatives that offer higher salaries, perks and a fast growth ladder.

Moreover, fresh engineers are often totally unequipped with industry specific skills with no 'plant' experience, and have to undergo another two to three years, increasing their 'time to market'. Mr. Hakan Kingstedt, President and MD of Sandvik pointed out that while engineers are available in plenty, India must address the question of how to create 'specialized engineers'. This is unlike in the IT industry, where a JAVA programmer can be fairly flexible and requires relatively lower 'domain expertise'.

Industry - academia collaboration

While industry representatives felt that the availability of quality talent is an issue, academicians felt that good talent would not come by on its own unless the industry was ready to co-operate. For this, they will have to provide greater exposure to prospective recruits on live projects. However, companies are wary of sending work to academic institutions on account of IPR and data security issues.

Academicians felt that the industry needs to provide a greater participatory role for students. This would not only help create an experienced labor pool, but also attract students who would otherwise get drawn to IT/ITES. They also urged engineering companies to consider revising their compensation norms and provide faster growth to new recruits to stop them from considering alternative professions.

It was felt that a collaborative environment would go towards tackling these issues. Some companies have already started to work with colleges to provide live projects as well as recruit students.

Where will the industry go from here?

What can the industry do next?
Build manufacturing capabilities
Undertake more prototyping
Provide higher value services like design and research
Assume greater product liability and risk management
Improve margins, deal sizes and growth rates

The industry is increasingly feeling the need to build up end-to-end capabilities in testing, prototyping, production, design and research. According to Mr. Ravi Gopinathan, CEO of Geometric Solutions, the industry needs to 'globalize' India as a brand and significantly expand the delivery footprint. Although the industry understands that the opportunity is significant, they are well aware of the challenges. However, there seems to be considerable enthusiasm among participants, who expect that "Engineered in India" will soon be a reality for the Indian engineering industry.

 

 



Replies:
Posted By: omshivaya
Date Posted: 27/Oct/2006 at 9:08pm
Any listed specialized player in this area? TCS, Infosys etc. are definitely doing many engineeering stuff. The opportunity I however feel be in a niche player which is into Engineering Design ONLY.

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Posted By: Siddhartha
Date Posted: 27/Oct/2006 at 9:24pm
Hi Omshivaya,
 
Moldtek is one of the stock in this area and it is also Damaniji's favourit. And I am not sure but Reliance capital also hold this stock. And Management is also IIM Alumni. 


Posted By: akash
Date Posted: 27/Oct/2006 at 9:29pm

Nice player are Nucleus Software,Geometric Software and Northgate Technologies. However I feel Northgate Technologies has already run up quite fast but the long term story is intact but once can easily take position in Nucleus Software and Geometric Software.



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Akash Bedi


Posted By: omshivaya
Date Posted: 27/Oct/2006 at 9:59pm
Nucleus Software is specialized into BFSI than Engineering Design.

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The most important quality for an investor is temperament,not intellect.A temperament that neither derives great pleasure from being with the crowd nor against it


Posted By: tigershark
Date Posted: 27/Oct/2006 at 10:37pm
take a look at TATA ELXSI they do a lot of design engeenering i own this stock from 80 levels great dividend payer also 27 oct 2006 qrt results watch out for them then make a investment call  visit www.tataelxsi.com for all details reg design engeenering.tigershark

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Posted By: tigershark
Date Posted: 27/Oct/2006 at 10:44pm
tata elxsi has done 11.89crs for the current qrt as compared to 8.5 last yr a growth of aprox30% should be in line to cross 41crs for the full yr on anequitybase of 31crs.tigershark

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understanding both the power of compound return and the difficulty getting it is the heart and soul of understanding a lot of things


Posted By: akash
Date Posted: 27/Oct/2006 at 10:57pm
yes rightdly said tata elxsi operate in niche segment of animation and some what related to engginering business. Also with entertainmemnt business growing the earning momentum will continue and also the company is virtually debt free, so it can be bet. But the concern that the business is which there are operating requires good amount of talent and for the hunt of them the margins good go under pressure because of higher attrition rate. Also the promoters of the comapny are mainly concentrated on the Telecom,Retailing,Steel and Auto. the IT shine has been taken by TCS.

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Akash Bedi


Posted By: ashwin.adsouza
Date Posted: 27/Oct/2006 at 11:07pm
KPIT Cummins can be big here. There have the legacy of cummins IT wing, but are doing more business outside of Cummins recently. Also they have acquired some european and US companies having core expertise in engg. design. Looks like they might tend to leverage these buyouts to get work and shift work to india.



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