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Topic: Seamec Ltd
Posted By: vinvestor2010
Subject: Seamec Ltd
Date Posted: 19/Mar/2010 at 9:03pm
OK just to get the ball rolling I am just posting my analysis of SEAMEC here
 
Biz Description
Seamec Ltd has 4 vessels which it gives for support in Oil Drilling , Platform Maintenance and Diving Support etc
The company leases out these vessels on a long period charter basis on a rate of say $100000 per day (best case), something like Aban Offshore's model
It is a 70-75% owned subsidiary of a French company called Tunip
The company is valued at about Rs 700 cr, the EV is about Rs 650 cr due to some cash on books last year. There is no debt
The current low valuation is due to an extra-ordinary period last year and might not count as a regular event. The PE on a normalized basis is about 8-10 on last 3-4 years earnings
I did a simple SWOT analysis of its business I would like to know if I am on the right track hopefully
 
Strengths
The company operates with excellent capital discipline - no debts and no dividends i.e. whatever is earned goes right back in the business (see the annual report also for their attitude)
They even terminated customer contracts for non payment and recovered money from them(obviously they know they are in demand)
The Diving Support Vessels seem to command a premium price of some sort as a result even Dolphin Offshore a competitor leases their vessel
Being a subsidiary of a global firm they should be able to get orders from a wider area
Compared to companies like Aban the balance sheet is in much better shape
With the exceptional earnings this year the company should end with at least 150-200 cr of cash against a market cap of 700 cr, though this may be reinvested or used for buyback
 
Weaknesses
The vessels are having an average age of 10-20 years , they may need upgrades or replacements(the excess cash could be used for this)
The company must put its vessels in a dry dock i.e. if a ship is used for a certain period, after that it must be sent back for maintenance by law that means lost revenue
With 75% of the company the owners might not be inclined to be minority shareholder friendly and through charges like management fee can drain it of its value
 
Opportunities
Oil Prices are expected to be high for sometime to come with Auto sales in India , China and rest of Asia remaining high. This should result in continued demand for their services
The parent firm owns 75% and with excess cash may choose to do a buyout like Sulzer through an open offer which could be a catalyst
 
Threats
Competition from other companies  as this seems to be a high profit low turn business
The stock has already run up considerably starting from the Rs 50 or so levels in last March
With 4 vessels if any one goes out of service due to accident, fire or the standard dry dock period , earnings will slip temporarily as in 2007. They truly have their eggs in 4 baskets
 
Would like to know if u ppl think this is a worthy investment , if yes why, if no why ??My understanding of the oil gas and shipping businesses is limited, I have gone primarily on Financial analysis.
 
The sorrowful saga of Cranes Software my no 1 mistake i will discuss later
Many thanks all



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Posted By: Rehan
Date Posted: 19/Mar/2010 at 9:59pm
http://www.myiris.com/newsCentre/storyShow.php?fileR=20100203121032199&dir=2010/02/03 - http://www.myiris.com/newsCentre/storyShow.php?fileR=20100203121032199&dir=2010/02/03


Posted By: manish_okhade
Date Posted: 21/Mar/2010 at 8:58pm
Such companies are investor's dilemma. They need huge inbvestment to buy new vessels to expand the business and it always comes from debt. Now smart marine companies take the debt in down time when its cheap and encash the proceed in up time. Business is cyclical and expansion is highly cap-intensive. Oil price is always a factor, I feel GESL is a better choice for long term investor due to its financial muscel. They are servicing the debt EMI by their interest incom from investmemnt alone (it has 200/- per share cash!!!).


Posted By: amitkhatri_99
Date Posted: 02/Sep/2010 at 2:21pm
IS this silence before before big breakout As three ships are on board


Posted By: samir767
Date Posted: 25/Sep/2010 at 11:49am
Hi ,
 
the base of seamec is that its in the oilfield services business.
 
the biggest threat which seamec faces is the cylical nature of this industry. as rightly pointed out oil swung from 133 to 40 odd levels, how are oil companies gonna plan their capex and upgradation activities with such wild swings.  they would prefer to wait and this is where service companies get hit the most.
 
Other threat is on uncertanities which arise , remember gulf of mexico indicent just a few days back. one legislation passed and  all new activities were stopped.  small companies would be just wiped out.
 
 
The other problem with providing services is that you have to be at the top of your game, oil has become harder to find and with that the level of sercives to be provided have become much more complex, if you are not upgrading and evolving technologically then you are out of this business or loose your pricing power.
 
 
however alls not lost ( as ever  the optimist i am Smile)  the next frontiers of oil discoveries is expected to come from offshore, Offshore crude oil output now accounts for almost one-third of the world’s production.  but offshore is more challenging and more challenges implies more business for companies like seamec.
 
the most natural and decisive advantage which  seamec has over others is that its parent company is Technip.  Technip is one of the worlds largest companies providing service in the subsea and offshore markets. revenues of around 6.5 billion Euros.   and i feel there should be more synergies which can be explored between the two.
 
 
happy investing!!
 
 
 
 
 


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Never give up your right to be wrong, because then you will lose the ability to learn new things and move forward with your life--- Dr. David M. Burns


Posted By: samir767
Date Posted: 26/Sep/2010 at 12:03pm
on a similar note i would also like to share an interesting article i had read in the web.  read below extract of that article.
for full article, here is the link. http://www.dailymarkets.com/stock/2010/04/21/investing-in-offshore-oil/ - http://www.dailymarkets.com/stock/2010/04/21/investing-in-offshore-oil/
 

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Never give up your right to be wrong, because then you will lose the ability to learn new things and move forward with your life--- Dr. David M. Burns


Posted By: vinvestor2010
Date Posted: 01/Apr/2011 at 10:05am

Wow what a flop prediction from me. I hope nobody bought the stock after reading this thread. Cry



Posted By: barla
Date Posted: 02/Apr/2011 at 1:51am
 
You should look at this positively.
 
Probably the first on TED where an individual is expressing such strong regret.
 
Hopefully you will learn a lesson and caution other i investors from falling into a smilar trap.
 
Originally posted by vinvestor2010

Wow what a flop prediction from me. I hope nobody bought the stock after reading this thread. Cry



Posted By: vinvestor2010
Date Posted: 03/Apr/2011 at 6:16pm
Originally posted by barla

 
You should look at this positively.
 
Probably the first on TED where an individual is expressing such strong regret.
 
Hopefully you will learn a lesson and caution other i investors from falling into a smilar trap.
 
Originally posted by vinvestor2010

Wow what a flop prediction from me. I hope nobody bought the stock after reading this thread. Cry

Thanks for the encouragement but it is a goof up none the less.
Following are the facts from my observations
In last 3 quarters company has had losses of -22.69 cr,-9.26 cr,-9.93 cr, -15 cr (approximate by me). This would total to a loss of about Rs -57 cr for FY 2010-11.
The good news is that last year they had 2 quarters of profits EACH of nearly 50 cr.
So even with this horror year they can survive.
Last year closing they had a cash balance of Rs 255 cr and 0 debt.
If we assume that all losses are cash and some more cash is spent maybe in capex,dividend etc then the cash loss of 57 cr can say be upped to 100 cr.
So it would still have AT LEAST about Rs 150 cr in cash or investments.
The market cap is Rs 322 cr now. So about 45% or Rs 47-48 per share is in cash IMHO.
Logically sir then even if company just does break even it should go to share price of Rs 150+.
However after 1 goofup I will not make any prediction Cry
Markets can remain irrational longer than we can remain solvent - Keynes    
IMHO this is an extended case of mispricing but Mr Market is the boss ultimately so now time to pray to Balaji :-)



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