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Karur Vysya Bank

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Topic: Karur Vysya Bank
Posted By: deveshkayal
Subject: Karur Vysya Bank
Date Posted: 18/Nov/2009 at 11:39am
Karur (CMP: 383) looks interesting to me based on financial parameters and Valuations.

Financial performance:

Q2 NIM: 3.06%
Q2FY10 PAT up 46.07%
H1FY10 PAT up 73.82%
H1 EPS: 30

Book Value FY09: 250
FY10 E : 299

ROE: 17.5% (FY09), 21.74% (FY10 E)
ROA: 1.82%

Interest on Advances grew 23.11%
Other Income grew 66%

Total Deposits grew 24.41%
Total Advances grew 23.22%
CASA: 21.89% as on 31st March'09

Gross NPA: 1.75%
Net NPA: 0.22%
Provision Coverage: 87.29%
CAR: 16.01% (Basel II)

Branches: 350 targetted by FY10 end

From the Chairman's AGM speech:
"Plans for 2009-10: Your bank has embarked on an ambitious plan to reach total business figure of Rs. 50000 cr. by March 2012. The targets for 2009-10 have been set with that goal in sight and your bank has set for itself a target level of Rs. 32200 cr. Focus will be on improving CASA and advances segments and emphasis will be on customer acquisition, particularly young customers."

Disclosure: I have vested interest in the stock.

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Posted By: FutureBull
Date Posted: 19/Nov/2009 at 12:17pm
it has been good dividend payer.. RJ has made tons of money in this stock..

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Posted By: Bhupan
Date Posted: 19/Nov/2009 at 2:18pm
Hi Devesh  .

an off topic question perhaps ..

 i was looking at Ing Vyasa and Yes Bank . any pointers towards comparison and ING and Karur are both trading around similar levels . if you could throw some light that would be nice


Posted By: Crimsonarcher
Date Posted: 19/Nov/2009 at 2:38pm
It was available at 300 or so about 3 months back. So its already given 30% odd...its a steady compounder at 15-20% YOY. You can park your money here and get regular returns, even perhaps 10 times in 10 years but can you buy and forget for the next 10 years??


Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 20/Nov/2009 at 1:27pm
No idea about ING except that Chryscapital has investments in the company.

I just checked that last Karur diluted equity was in Jan'07 and that too through rights issue. Board has deferred raising money through QIP and hence no shareholder approval was taken during the AGM. CAR stands at more than required level of 16% as on 30th Sept. So I guess dilution should not happen before March'10 which means ROE of 21%+ should be comfortably achieved this year.

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Posted By: tigershark
Date Posted: 20/Nov/2009 at 1:51pm
in a rising int rate regime will casa of 21% be enough?

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Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 23/Nov/2009 at 9:25am
40% CASA stocks are priced to perfection @ 3x BV. Even if CASA improves by 3% over next 2 years, it will boost margins by atleast 20bps. Valuations will look cheap on P/BV when equity is diluted next year. From FY11 perspective, this one is trading at around 0.9x BV.

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Posted By: nikhil090
Date Posted: 23/Nov/2009 at 10:18am
IT is a good conservative private bank which is free from most of the troubles of PSU's banks (govt intervention etc) and still available cheap with reasonable dividend yield.
 
Especially for Banks, I believe big is not beautiful. It is the efficient and conservative which is beautiful and KVB scores on all those parameters..If they can increase their fee based income then it can be big spinner otherwise it is sedate performer which is cheap but efficient.


Posted By: Hitesh Shah
Date Posted: 23/Nov/2009 at 10:34am
It got several decent mentions http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshowpics/5258884.cms - here .

Please IGNORE!!!!

The online version and the print version are different Embarrassed


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Posted By: Hitesh Shah
Date Posted: 23/Nov/2009 at 11:37am
http://lite.epaper.timesofindia.com/mobile.aspx?article=yes&pageid=22&sectid=edid=&edlabel=ETM&mydateHid=23-11-2009&pubname=Economic%20Times%20-%20Mumbai&edname=&articleid=Ar02202&publabel=ET - This is the proper link (I hope)
excerpts:

The study was a kind of eye opener in the sense that it showed that smaller banks like Karur Vyasa Bank and City Union Bank are more efficient than their larger peers. Karur Vyasa Bank boasts of third highest RoA (return on assets) in the industry. That coupled with above average net interest margin (NIM) helped it sneaking in the list of top 10 most efficient banks.

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Karur Vyasa Bank features here as well and with this, it has managed to do extremely well on three of the four parameters. The only reason that its overall rank was dragged down was due to its smaller size.

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ON this parameter too, Federal Bank ranks the best followed by Yes Bank and Indian Bank. Federal Bank has the highest CAR (capital adequacy ratio) along with one of the lowest non-performing assets (NPAs). Karur Vyasa Bank comes as a strong bank even on this count.




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Posted By: Hitesh Shah
Date Posted: 23/Nov/2009 at 11:38am
Originally posted by Hitesh Shah

It got several decent mentions http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshowpics/5258884.cms - here .

Please IGNORE!!!!

The online version and the print version are different Embarrassed


In edit: No difference! I read the wrong article Ouch


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Posted By: Mohan
Date Posted: 24/Nov/2009 at 2:56am
Originally posted by basant



One company that has almost always made a rights issue and up several hundred fold is Karur Vysya Bank!



What do you think of its future ?


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Posted By: Mohan
Date Posted: 24/Nov/2009 at 3:00am
Originally posted by deveshkayal

40% CASA stocks are priced to perfection @ 3x BV. Even if CASA improves by 3% over next 2 years, it will boost margins by atleast 20bps. Valuations will look cheap on P/BV when equity is diluted next year. From FY11 perspective, this one is trading at around 0.9x BV.


Deveshji,
Please translate it into Hinglish for us poor souls. :)


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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 24/Nov/2009 at 7:40am
Good stable compounder.



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Posted By: smartcat
Date Posted: 24/Nov/2009 at 11:29am
CASA means Money ("small change" actually) in Kannada.
BV means Wife in Hindi
bps means Bipasha (bips)
 
Pee by BV -> don't know why Devesh mentioned this.


Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 24/Nov/2009 at 11:33am
Originally posted by smartcat

CASA means Money ("small change" actually) in Kannada.
BV means Wife in Hindi
bps means Bipasha (bips)
 
Pee by BV -> don't know why Devesh mentioned this.


One of the best explanations on TED.LOLLOLLOL

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Posted By: Mohan
Date Posted: 25/Nov/2009 at 12:28pm
Originally posted by basant



Good stable compounder.



How does it compare to  HDFC Bank ?

Maybe this and couple of earlier posts be shifter to KYB  thread.


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Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 29/Jan/2010 at 1:29pm
Good Q3 numbers:

Q3 EPS: Rs 14 (growth of 28% YoY), 9MFY10 EPS: Rs 44
NIM: 3.38%
NII grew 29.32% YoY
ROA: 1.54%
CAR: 15.66%
Net NPA: 0.19%

KVB’s total business stood at Rs 30,532.92 crore as of December 2009, up by 28% on a year-on-year basis.

While the total deposits of the bank was up 30.28% at Rs 17891.66 crore (Rs.13733.08 crore), the total advances was up 26.53% at Rs 12,641.26 crore (Rs 9,990.89 crore)


If KVB raises 250crs @ 400/share, it would add Rs 44/share to the book value. I think KVB should raise capital in Q1FY11.

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Posted By: stock_surgeon
Date Posted: 14/Sep/2011 at 12:41pm
Looks good now at 360


Posted By: manish_okhade
Date Posted: 14/Sep/2011 at 2:33pm
Originally posted by stock_surgeon

Looks good now at 360


Why?


Posted By: stock_surgeon
Date Posted: 14/Sep/2011 at 2:53pm
Good dividend yield, low PE, Low PB. And fall is due to market sentiments


Posted By: shontou
Date Posted: 01/Nov/2011 at 11:51am
Karur Vysya Bank net profit rises 10.44% in the September 2011 quarter

Operating income rises 48.94% to Rs 772.05 crore

Net profit of Karur Vysya Bank rose 10.44% to Rs 113.31 crore in the quarter ended September 2011 as against Rs 102.60 crore during the previous quarter ended September 2010. Total operating income rose 48.94% to Rs 772.05 crore in the quarter ended September 2011 as against Rs 518.38 crore during the previous quarter ended September 2010.
Particulars     Quarter Ended
     Sep. 2011     Sep. 2010     % Var.
Sales     772.05     518.38     49
OPM %     80.99     75.68     7
PBDT     144.38     126.25     14
PBT     144.38     126.25     14
NP     113.31     102.60     10

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Posted By: stock_surgeon
Date Posted: 03/Nov/2011 at 11:49pm
So it is back to 395 now, had bought it around 355- when I mentioned it in my post. Will hold it for 1 yr. Expecting 50% return from my buy price in next 1 yr



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