Master Franchise for foreign business
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Printed Date: 04/Apr/2025 at 11:09am
Topic: Master Franchise for foreign business
Posted By: amitdip
Subject: Master Franchise for foreign business
Date Posted: 11/Nov/2009 at 1:31pm
Hi Guys,
I am looking for India listed companies that own Master Franchise for a foreign business. As much as we would like to, there is no way to play McDonalds, KFC, Pizza Hut, Baskin Robbins or other successful concepts as they are not listed or are in private hands.
An example in point is Page Industries that owns a valuable franchise for Jockey undergarments or Indage Restaurants that owns franchise for Nandos restaurants (this is successful in South Africa and dozen other countries but stock is another story).
I guarantee of only a few of them can be picked, they can create immense wealth over the next decade.
Keep ideas flowing.
Regards
Amit
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Posted By: smartcat
Date Posted: 11/Nov/2009 at 4:26pm
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Hero Honda?
All FMCG MNC companies too - the only difference between Page Industries and Colgate is that the promoter ownership (which is largely irrelevant to an investor) is Indian & Foreign respectively.
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Posted By: prashantmohta
Date Posted: 11/Nov/2009 at 4:49pm
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Dominos is coming with ipo next year but be careful about bhartiyas.
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Posted By: amitdip
Date Posted: 11/Nov/2009 at 10:50pm
Thanks smartcat and prashant. Good to know about Domino's ! will do some digging. Hero Honda has been great in past..and can be in future too.
I am looking for retail stories that can replicate franchise model as in like Titan, Reebok etc..
http://www.franchisebusiness.in/
www.franchiseindia.com/
I had a wicked thought. To do some research of strong US brands and search across Brazil, Russia, China, Argentina etc.. emerging market and find if McDonalds, Subway are listed there or are in partnership with local player that is listed.
Keep up the digging
Thanks again
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Posted By: amitdip
Date Posted: 11/Nov/2009 at 10:53pm
Idea is to create that list and keep it handy for players that have potential and have black ink.
Here is another idea:
Shoppers Stop is another which has tie up with British retailer MotherCare: Mothercare had revenues of about 6000 Crores INR last year.
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Posted By: prashantmohta
Date Posted: 11/Nov/2009 at 1:35am
I have read toadys paper that yum restaurant which the parent of pizza hut have no official plans to list here.
Amit do u know whether mc donalds is listed somewhere else except America.
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Posted By: deepinsight
Date Posted: 11/Nov/2009 at 2:06am
I read somewhere that fouder of Bharti has a deal with Wal Mart and Trent with Tesco.
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"Investing is simple, but not easy." - Warren Buffet
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Posted By: amitdip
Date Posted: 11/Nov/2009 at 4:04am
Hi Guys,
My wife has gone back to India for a a couple of weeks today so I will be relatively free on weekends :)
Lets do this in a more organized way. This weekend I will come up with 15 strong American Brands that have grown through franchising, feel free to add German, British, French etc. to that list. I will publish this list on google docs. Then we should attack one market at a time, say China to begin with as it has potential, then we should move to next one as in Argentina, Brazil, Russia etc. That way we will be able to get to know websites/sources in a market collectively and comb through franchise opportunities. Although there may be local franchise opportunities but lets leave that out of scope for the moment.
Bharti Walmart is private deal not with Bharti Airte.
Trent and Tesco should in that list.
McDonalds has partnered with China Petroleum and Chemical to open McDonalds in its 30,000 petrol pumps and is listed but its already multi billion $ (77 Billion $) company so we can look at it too but its not exciting.
Will prepare something this weekend
Regards
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Posted By: amitdip
Date Posted: 12/Nov/2009 at 3:10pm
Find the first draft here, help me fill this in with anything you can lay your hands on.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tb0GW2rdXZw6dthVA_7aeLQ&output=html
If you want to edit it yourself you can send me your email id, so I can grant permission.
Regards
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Posted By: Siddhartha
Date Posted: 12/Nov/2009 at 10:13pm
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One should look at Viceroy's bread talk.
They have franchise licence from Singapor backery. Altough it is very small but as a whole picture, currently Viceroy's 50 % revenue is coming from food plus backery business.
They have plan to open around 200+ outlet in future.
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Posted By: amitdip
Date Posted: 12/Nov/2009 at 12:05pm
Thanks Siddartha,
Added to the list.
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Posted By: maxi2010
Date Posted: 09/May/2010 at 10:24am
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A foreign master franchise isn’t really a different
form of franchising. What happens is that a South African entity,
usually a company, acquires the master franchise rights for the country
from a foreign entity. Seeing that the concept of franchising is
universal and applied in the same way all over the world, there should
be no surprises here, but beware. Bringing a foreign concept to South
Africa has a nice ring to it, yet this is one area of franchising where
failures exceed successes by far. Not that there is necessarily
something wrong with the foreign concept, what it usually boils down to
is a combination of factors, for example:
- an overestimation of the pulling power of a foreign concept by the would-be master franchisee
- insufficient commitment by the foreign
company to understand the target market and partner the master
franchisee in making the transaction successful
- a lack of understanding of the complexities involved in a cross-border deal on the part of both parties.
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