India-China:How it Stacks
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Topic: India-China:How it Stacks
Posted By: venkat
Subject: India-China:How it Stacks
Date Posted: 03/Oct/2009 at 9:39pm
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According to recent media reports, there has been a drastic rise in incursions by Chinese troops through the India-Tibet border near Leh and Ladakh region. A report said that some Chinese soldiers had recently entered the Chumar sector, east of Leh, and even threatened some Indian shepherds. The soldiers also painted 'China' on some of the rocks with a red spray paint. This incident comes on the heels of a protest lodged by Army chief General Deepak Kapoor with the Chinese authorities following a recent incident of a China-bound helicopter entering the Indian territory. In fact, there have also been reports of frequent incursions by the Chinese Army into Leh-Ladakh region since January 2009.
On October 1, 1949, the People's Republic of China was formally established, when Mao announced the creation of a "people's democratic dictatorship???? at a ceremony held in Beijing. Chinese incursion into the Indian territory is not a new phenomenon. China has taunted India through military and political means for quite a while now. China's actions have revealed many uncomfortable plans against India, such as backing the Maoist activities in Nepal. Riots and subsequent events in China????s Xinjiang province have shaken the political structure of the communist nation. Also, China is on the defensive, as far as tackling the global economic crisis is concerned. Chinese authority would try to consolidate its position as an emerging world leader, and may want to wipe out any possible resistance. China will be preoccupied with its internal matters till mid-September 2010. In fact, from 2010 onwards, the country may face radical upheavals. It is no secret that China is preparing to become a world leader. After October 2010, China may begin a massive military exercise and deploy thousands of troops on the Indo-China border. In 2011, China will struggle to maintain stability in the region. Repeated Chinese incursions into Indian territory may lead to a large-scale war similar to the one in 1962. Thus, the period starting from August 2012 looks highly sensitive for India. ------------- Life is always a fight....to finish at the start line. Problem-Use challenge, Tension-Use excitement,Ican't-Use i can,avoid no at the beginning of sentence. |
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Posted By: venkat
Date Posted: 03/Oct/2009 at 9:56pm
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China's GDP: 4.4Trillion US$in 2008 India's GDP: 1.21 Trillion US$ in 2008
Per-Capita Income: 3180$ Percapita Income: 1016$
Poverty Line:10% Poverty Line:30%
Exports: 1.4 Trillion Exports:175 Billion US$
Population: 1.38 Billion Population:1.2 Billion
Pop Growth rate-0.629 % Pop Growth Rate: 1.8% ------------- Life is always a fight....to finish at the start line. Problem-Use challenge, Tension-Use excitement,Ican't-Use i can,avoid no at the beginning of sentence. |
Posted By: venkat
Date Posted: 03/Oct/2009 at 11:44am
As we can see China can do things 3 times better than us......Maybe it will be 4 times in 5-7 years. With an exchange rate of 7 yuan per dollar India should be 21. No wonder India despite depreciating it's currency we are still unable to compete with it in manufacturing. No wonder roads, railway tracks, water, power,work-ethics, vocational training cannot be created with a cheap currency.
Hence with Reliance at 4,00,000 crores Market capitalization and an exchange rate of 20 the company is already 200 billion on par with Berkshire Hathaway. Hence we could expect RIL to double to 400-450 billion.
This has lead me to assign a target of Sensex at 30,000-40,000 levels. Most of the midcaps and smallcaps would not be able to grow 10-20 times with the slow growth being witnessed. Moreover 2002-2007 period was noticeable with a lot of slush liquidity in the system. We may not see that kind of a boom in our lifetimes.
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Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 04/Oct/2009 at 12:02pm
According to rumor mills doing round in diplomatic circle, the main reason behind this offensive against India is that they learned about Gobi Manchurian and Chinese Bhel served in restaurants here. |
Posted By: Krishna
Date Posted: 04/Oct/2009 at 10:54pm
Rumors making rounds are also hinting that MoEA is seriously trying to reslove this by paying 2% royalty to Chinese for every plate of Gobi and Bhel served in Metros, and is considering appointing certain Mr.TenPercent from our friendly neighborhood as a consultant oversee this deal.
But it is suspected that MoF is opposed to this deal due to inflantionary pressures it could bring.
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Posted By: aloksahi1971
Date Posted: 05/Oct/2009 at 12:05pm
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Thank God we live here and not China. Many forigners who I speak to are really impresed with what China has done with its infrastructure but are absolutly awed at what we are doing without being a coersive regime .we have democracy and our voice.
The level of corruption is fantastic in China and every one on top is related.So it is more an ogliarchy( System ruled by a few) the poor have no voice and prostitution .... you will be hounded in Shangai by the prostitutes. bejing is more refined. ------------- Born To Golf forced to work. |
Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 05/Oct/2009 at 12:15pm
 It can happen only in India!
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Posted By: numcru
Date Posted: 05/Apr/2011 at 6:56am
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It seems Chinese bite the hand that feeds it. Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru and India were first off the block to ask the world community to recognize China as a Permanent Member of the Security Council despite the fact that even we at that time had an opportunity to become one. Talk of somebody forgetting the good deeds done to them.
The Chinese are building Chittagong port in Bangladesh, Hambantota port in SriLanka and Gwadar port in Pakistan alongwith projects in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir in Pakistan to ensure an uninterrupted supply of oil and Gas from the Persian Gulf. Thus China by following a policy of strategic encirclement would be able to challenge India with a blue water navy both the Arabian Sea and Bay of Bengal.
In the 1965 and 1971 Wars with Pakistan, China did not get involved. I predicted that India and Pakistan might see some fireworks in 2013 with a possible or probable war with China in 2016. Would the Chinese get involved if India mans it's own backyard?
A series of articles from Times Now:
1. Undeniable proof of Pak-China nexus
It's undeniable proof of Chinese involvement in
In fact, in a number of instances Indian soldiers have spotted Chinese soldiers in bunkers along GOC-in-C Northern Command warns of Chinese threat. Lt Gen K T Parnaik says Chinese troops are stationed along LoC and warns of implications for Lt Gen K T Parnaik, GOC-in-C Northern Command, said, "It poses military challenges to 2.Pak angle to Chinese incursions
Pakistani angle has now surfaced to the Chinese incursions into Why is China eyeing Gilgit-Baltistan
proof that ------------- -66 and 93 |
Posted By: barla
Date Posted: 06/Apr/2011 at 2:48pm
| What role is china playing in afghanistan |
Posted By: numcru
Date Posted: 06/Apr/2011 at 5:46pm
Pakistan a client state of China can do it's bidding as Pakistan does not take too kindly to India's humanitarian measures in Afghanistan. Recently we witnessed a bombing of the Indian High Commission in Afghanistan. Afghanistan has huge mineral reserves and getting involved is important for playing the Great Game in Central Asia. But it is granted that Pakistan has much more in common with the "back-stabbers" in Afghanistan than India. ------------- -66 and 93 |
Posted By: LearningToFly
Date Posted: 08/Apr/2011 at 12:07pm
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numcru
Let's not believe everything that New Delhi says. Pakistan and China are not so bad and India is not so innocent. This humanitarian thing is all hogwash. We have seen how humanitarian Indian Government is when it comes to dealing with problems of poverty in India.
A country that cares zilch about its citizens will hardly care for Afghanistan.
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Posted By: barla
Date Posted: 08/Apr/2011 at 11:16am
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That is right paksitan and china are not so bad.
that is why every single neighbour of China be it veitnam or japan has a dispute with it. It is the goodness of China that is ensuring that it does not become worse. As for Pakistan it is very good. Only problem are the mullahs who are now virutally running a parallel government, the army which keeps interfering in the administration and pumping in mercenairies into Kashmir, the tribals in the North east who harbout the Al quaeda, the .....
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Posted By: LearningToFly
Date Posted: 10/Apr/2011 at 5:50pm
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Dear Sir,
I am sure India has enough problems with its neighbour. The problem is when we think that our problems are because of our neighbours and China's is because of China. Let's stop it on that.
The other reason why China is feared and hated to some extent in western world and India because this is the first time in history that someone (apart from western world) has challenged the conventional belief and western hegemony. India loves western world's dominance.
As far as Pakistan is concerned, it is a favorite whipping boy for other countries for their failure and screwed up policies.
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Posted By: Electrodelic
Date Posted: 10/Apr/2011 at 6:16pm
Very true. How Americans used their media i.e everything from newspapers to movies to convince the world that Russians are the devils...similarly Indian governement & corporates through media have thrust that Pakistan is evil propoganda through our media. The plight of minorities(muslims, tribals, Sc/St),Kashmir issue and the Maoist situation are evidence of how much political parties care about us. Please note that i'm not implying that China or any other country for that matter is less corrupted. All nations which have the illusion or aspiration to become a super power has been immensely hypocritical and corrupt throughout history. In the 21st century, with internet making information available to anyone who wants it...i think it is our responsibility to be aware of it and not be blindly patriotic. |
Posted By: numcru
Date Posted: 10/Apr/2011 at 7:24pm
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Somehow Indian mandarins have been involved in fomenting trouble in Balochistan which Pakistan alleges. We have problems with all our neighbours. We are not maintaining positive relations with either Bangladesh or Srilanka. The Tatas wished to set up steel plants in Bangladesh as it could have had a two pronged strategy- of utilizing natural gas reserves of Bangladesh and check the influx of migrants from Bangladesh to West Bengal. But they have abandoned the project. We could have been a better neighbour by getting bigger bang for the buck by improving relations with all the neighbours than concentrate our energies on a mirage of issues of abundant nuclear energy and being a client state of the US. ------------- -66 and 93 |
Posted By: barla
Date Posted: 11/Apr/2011 at 12:12pm
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cuba, libya, Iran are determined not to be a clinet state of the US. Japan, singapore, australia Canada are bascilly client states of the US.
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Posted By: LearningToFly
Date Posted: 11/Apr/2011 at 8:52pm
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The funny part in all these debates is that everyone thinks others are client states of USA except themselves. I like one comment by some US diplomat. He said "Indian use heavy words very lightly". How true.------------- Success... at all cost. |