IS THERE A GOD? TRUE ENJOYABLE STORY
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Topic: IS THERE A GOD? TRUE ENJOYABLE STORY
Posted By: hit2710
Subject: IS THERE A GOD? TRUE ENJOYABLE STORY
Date Posted: 17/Jul/2009 at 6:58pm
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An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty.
He asks one of his new students to stand and..... Prof: So you believe in God? Student: Absolutely, sir. Prof : Is God good? Student: Sure. Prof: Is God all-powerful? Student : Yes. Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm? (Student is silent.) Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fella. Is God good? Student: Yes. Prof: Is Satan good? Student : No. Prof: Where does Satan come from? Student: From...God.. .. Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world? Student: Yes. Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct? Student: Yes. Prof: So who created evil? (Student does not answer.) Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they? Student: Yes, sir. Prof: So, who created them? (Student has no answer.) Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God? Student: No, sir. Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God? Student: No, sir. Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter? Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't. Prof: Yet you still believe in Him? Student: Yes. Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son? Student: Nothing. I only have my faith. Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has. Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat? Prof: Yes. Student: And is there such a thing as cold? Prof: Yes. Student: No sir. There isn't.. (The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events..) Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold . Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat . We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy . Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it .(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.) Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness? Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness? Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light...But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you? Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man? Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed. Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how? Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor.Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey? Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do. Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir? (The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going..) Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.) Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain? (The class breaks out into laughter.) Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain,sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir? (The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable. ) Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son. Student: That is it sir.... The link between man & god is FAITH . That is all that keeps things moving & alive. NB: I believe you have enjoyed the conversation. this is a true story, and the student was none other than....... . .APJ Abdul Kalam , the former president of India ------------- Stockmarket is a weird place. For every person who buys a stock there is a person who sells it and both think they are very smart. |
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Posted By: ThinkDifferent
Date Posted: 17/Jul/2009 at 9:07pm
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Can you provide a link to this story? Abdul Kalam???!!!! Seems like a bullsh*t made up story... ------------- I am an Amateur in Stocks. |
Posted By: vsb2pwn
Date Posted: 17/Jul/2009 at 10:11pm
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Nice One, Think Different Pls Excuse but you also lack Faith.  Hit, I am not surprised. My younger brother is a research scientist and while he was doing his docrorate from IISc Banglore, I interacted with his fellow students and found them more God fearing and God abiding then most of other people of their age in other walks of life. Prehaps that is due to their methodical approach to view and analyze things |
Posted By: hit2710
Date Posted: 17/Jul/2009 at 11:57pm
Maybe or maybe not. But I would like to focus on the story itself rather than who the student was and who the professor was. i got the story by mail and I don't know how to verify it, but the story was interesting and hence I posted it as it was. If you feel like it, I can forward the story itself, you can send me your email address. It is quite colourful in the mail. ------------- Stockmarket is a weird place. For every person who buys a stock there is a person who sells it and both think they are very smart. |
Posted By: ThinkDifferent
Date Posted: 19/Jul/2009 at 2:09pm
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No i don't need the email. I trust you when you say you got it via email. Most of what you get via email fwds is BS (especially when it has no link). So one needs to be skeptical about them. Regarding the story, it is a stupid story. The student's questions and debate are laughable.. ------------- I am an Amateur in Stocks. |
Posted By: vsb2pwn
Date Posted: 19/Jul/2009 at 12:14pm
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Every Body Has Right To Think Different And That Should Be Appericiated. But Saying Your Thought Aloud Is Ok Till It Does Not Hit Anybody........ ...........Just Musing !!!!! |
Posted By: vsb2pwn
Date Posted: 19/Jul/2009 at 12:20pm
| I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son. |
Posted By: hit2710
Date Posted: 20/Jul/2009 at 2:24pm
Hi, Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder. Think Different might think it a stupid story and others might think different and find it interesting. ------------- Stockmarket is a weird place. For every person who buys a stock there is a person who sells it and both think they are very smart. |
Posted By: wiseowl
Date Posted: 20/Jul/2009 at 3:08pm
The version which I received said that the student was Albert Einstein. I think this is a BS story concocted by some "Faith" fundamentalist (in the Religion v/s Science context) in the US, circulated by e-mail and then "adapted" by some "patriotic" Indian.... ------------- You alone are responsible for your actions. |
Posted By: ThinkDifferent
Date Posted: 20/Jul/2009 at 7:22pm
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you are indeed wise...
------------- I am an Amateur in Stocks. |
Posted By: vsb2pwn
Date Posted: 20/Jul/2009 at 11:25pm
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Nobody Has Debated In This Post That Student Was Indeed APJ Kalam. As far as story being concocted by some "Faith" fundamentalist, Pls refer to Opening Line of the story 'An Aesthetic Professor Of Philosophy' . I assure you all Aesthetic Professors Of Philosophy are fundamentalists. The catch in the story was Professor of Philosophy discussing scientific approach to faith. Some Got It - Others Missed |
Posted By: vsb2pwn
Date Posted: 20/Jul/2009 at 11:34pm
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Please Excuse Bad Spell Check:
Pls refer to Opening Line of the story 'An Atheist Professor Of Philosophy' . I assure you all Atheist Professors Of Philosophy are fundamentalists. |
Posted By: SingleMalt
Date Posted: 20/Jul/2009 at 5:59am
At first blush, your statement appears to be an oxymoron. Atheist professors, irrespective of their 'departmental' affiliations, are never fundamentalists, at least going by the age old definition of fundamentalists as conservatives and religious zealots (forgive me, republicans and BJP ticket holders).
Ofcourse, you can argue that a broader definition of fundamentalist means "strict adherence to a set of basic principles".. But if you go with the current universally accepted association of fundamentalism, it is almost always aligned (too much, perhaps) with pro-God and pro-Godliness. ------------- If only I knew then what I know now... |
Posted By: vsb2pwn
Date Posted: 21/Jul/2009 at 2:56am
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Thanks Single Malt, You have rightly conveyed the broader aspect of fundamentalist. Sticking to one's fundamentals describe a fundamentalist not his religious leanings. It is one of the most wrongly used words in context of religion. Its use in communicating a 'Religious Fanatic' or 'Zealot' started by members of print media using this softer word in the lands where law enforcers were religious relics. By the way word Atheist itself means non-beliver hence to call An atheist Professor a religious fundamentalist was never the objective. Thanks for clarifying on my behalf. < ="Content-" content="text/; charset=utf-8">< name="ProgId" content="Word.">< name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 11">< name="Originator" content="Microsoft Word 11"><> |