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TheEquityDesk Report Card March 2008!

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Forum Name: Identifying Multibaggers
Forum Discription: Discuss specific attributes that investors could look at while choosing multibaggers. Also point out certain factors that investors tend to overlook while finding multibaggers.
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Topic: TheEquityDesk Report Card March 2008!
Posted By: basant
Subject: TheEquityDesk Report Card March 2008!
Date Posted: 31/Mar/2008 at 9:48am

Hi,

 

The last quarter was the most difficult one ever since this bull m

arket started in 2003. The tendency of stocks to respond to the force of stocks reflected such a tendency to respond to the force of gravity as they did in this quarter was profound.

 

This quarter saw two changes in http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=429 - The Equity Desk XI  with:

 

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=%20%20href= - Voltas replaces TV 18 in The EquityDesk XI.

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1535 - IDFC replaces Fin Tech in TheEquityDesk X

 

Being focused on financials, media, retail and infrastructure The EquityDesk XI stocks also lost a lot of in price from their January highs but since all these businesses are either leaders in their space or very close to that position there is reason to feel optimistic about their prospects going forward.

 

With the recent inflation scare and other data people can think in two different ways. The optimists would say that we are already down 35% from our peak so are we discounting the worst whereas the other camp would say that the worst is yet to come.

 

I wish there were easy answers to this. Personally I am convinced that over the next 12 months we will be higher then what we are today.

 

The coming quarter would be defining. Ever since 1992 we have seen that the moment the stock prices stop moving upwards companies are out in the market washing dirty linen and stating that growth is a problem.I expect no such thing to repeat itself – at least in for the front liners (sector leaders).

 

Companies dependent on capital markets as part of their business model or for raising funds could be under the hammer. In such circumstances it pays to be with companies where RoCE> growth.

 

The Global conditions add to the discomfort. The new buzz word in the financial markets is “coupling”. A point to ponder upon is had this story been in vogue how could our index have gone up 5 times over the past 5 years whereas the Dow done has nothing. This theory also rubbishes all claims of GDP growth differential. That means a country that can grow at 8%+ and a country that is nearing recession should have similar stock price movements.

 

It just cannot get more bizarre then this.

 

Anyone who was in the markets during 2000-03 and bought stocks (non tech) would know the kind of returns stocks given when they are bought in times where the mass public is abandoning them. But temporary losses in paper capital create permanent roadblocks to wealth generation.

 

During that time the analyst opinion was similar and the markets did respond but the real money was made by people who bought in 2000-03 rather then from 2003-07 (when things had dramatically improved).

 

Company

 

Recm

Date

Recm

Price

Current

Price

 

Absolute %

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=295 - Everest Kanto

8-Sep-06

80

265

231

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=69 - Mc Dowell

18-Jul-06

490

1480

202

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=451 -

6-Oct-06

137

403

194

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=577 - IndiaBulls

13-Nov-06

142

414

192

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=173 - Amarraja Batteries

15-Aug-06

66.4

183

176

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=593 - Infoedge

19-Oct-06

320

872

173

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=696 - GBN

9-Jan-07

50

133

166

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=151&PID=638#638 - Jain Irrigation

13-Aug-06

249

592

138

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=322 - L&T

6-Sep-06

1278

3024

137

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=102 - Crisil

2-Aug-06

1550

3150

103

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=221 - Bharti  Airtel 

24-Aug-06

407

826

103

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=502 - Geodesic

17-Oct-06

90

180

100

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=217 - Kotak Bank

27-Sep-06

314

622

98

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37 -

23-Jul-06

186

365

96

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=135 -

26-Jul-06

225

439

95

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29 - TV 18

20-Jul-06

203

395

95

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=591 -

17Nov06

78

150

92

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=117 -

5Aug-06

1245

2374

91

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=277 -

20-Jul-06

697

1325

90

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=561&PN=1 -

1-Sep-06

89

168

89

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=535 - Opto Circuits

26-Oct-06

184

326

77

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1228 - Centurion BOP

1-Sep-06

25.5

43

69

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=305 - Aditya Birla Nuvo

10-Sep-06

836

1400

67

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=242 - Havells

30-Aug-06

285

470

65

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=277 - ICICI Bank

20-Jul-06

467

769

65

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=362 - Bharti Shipyard

17-Sep-06

337

543

61

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=709 - Zee News

23-Jan-07

32

51

59

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=128 - Tata Investments

8-Aug-06

337

491

46

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=682 - Adlabs

2-Jan-07

430

613

43

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?FID=30&TID=231&PN=1 - Nitco Tiles

28-Aug-06

169

240

42

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=133 - Morgan Stanley

19-Aug-06

34.7

49

41

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=309 -

18-Aug-06

749

1048

40

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=243 - Kohinoor Foods

30-Aug-06

78

108

38

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=409&PN=1 - Sun Pharmaceuticals

25-Sep-06

930

1214

31

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=224 - Financial Technologies 

26-Aug-06

1252

1580

26

Reliance Capital

3-Jun-07

972

1219

25

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=249 - Indraprastha Gas

1-Sep-06

117

130

11

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1366 - Tata Tea

15-Nov-07

750

825

10

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=233 - Suzlon Energy

28-Aug-06

242

264

9

Monsanto

21-Sep-06

1488

1608

8

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1664 - Marico

15-Mar-08

63

67

6

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1296 -

21-Oct07

735

764

4

Nestle

31-Mar-08

1490

1490

0

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=126 - Indian Hotels

7-Aug-06

116

111

-4

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1235 - J & K Bank

23-Sep-07

710

678

-5

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1462 - Dabur

18-Dec-07

116

109

-6

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=270&PN=1 - Network18

20-Jul-06

238

218

-8

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=376 - Shanti Gears

20-Sep-06

64

57

-11

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27 - Infosys

19-Jul-06

1612

1432

-11

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1599 - SKF India

16-Feb-08

358

300

-16

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=216&PID=1145#1145 - Maharashtra Seamless

22-Aug-06

365

305

-16

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1561 -

28-Jan-08

220

179

-19

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=122 - Rayban Sun Optics

6-Aug-06

87

69

-21

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1592 - Sintex

15-Feb-08

448

355

-21

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=100 - Inox Leisure

2-Aug-06

125

99

-21

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1122 - Champagne Indage

7-Aug-07

690

530

-23

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=441 - PVR

1-Oct-06

255

188

-26

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=103 - Trent

2-Aug-06

715

526

-26

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1194 - Max India

5-Sep-07

202

146

-28

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=181 - Zicom ELectronics

16-Aug-06

185

131

-29

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=131 - Lloyd Electric

9-Aug-06

138

96

-30

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=701 - Moser Baer

15-Jan-07

220

152

-31

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1396 - India Infoline

25-Nov-07

1119

770

-31

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1308 - ICRA

25-Oct-07

960

660

-31

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15-Nov-07

1400

810

-42

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1078 - LMW!

14-Jul-07

2930

1600

-45

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=694 - Nucleus Software

8-Jan-07

351

190

-46

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=263 - Vimta Laboratories

3-Sep-06

159

79

-50

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=260 - Prithvi Information

2-Sep-06

327

162

-50

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=856 - -   TV

18Apr07

103

50

-51

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=748 - WWIL

8-Feb-07

120

35

-71

 

# Stocks in maroon (pun unintended) are from http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=429 - The Equity Desk XI.

 

Regards,

 

Basant

 

 

 

 



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Replies:
Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 31/Mar/2008 at 10:19am
I think we should remove Moser Baer and Network 18 from Emerging Midcap section.

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Posted By: Vivek Sukhani
Date Posted: 31/Mar/2008 at 10:22am
I have a question on the methodology of this computation.
 
I think the way we are choosing dates is wrong for computation. One may have a stock on his watchlist for a long time but the returns shall be computed when the stock actually is bought.
 
The results will get materially different in case such a methodology is adopted. the returns may actually be higher as I remember 2 companies , educomp Solutions and Aditya Birla Nuvo did very well when they were there and have been subsequently replaced. But their contribution shall always be reckoned when we take into account actual returns.
 
Similarly, I think IDFC's entry price shall be taken as when it made to TED XI and not when it started getting discussed. Same goes for Yes, Titan, Voltas and many others. I am at a total loss to understand that how come Voltas start with 19 p.c. loss when it started just yesterday or day before. If I am a buyer into TED XI, I am not sitting on a 19 p.c. loss, for sure.Similarly I did not make a gain when Blue Star entered TED XI. This recommended price is also not right.
 
However, I stick to my earlier observation. This churn rate is way too high for any long term portfolio.


Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 31/Mar/2008 at 10:30am
Vivek: This is not TED XI but stocks that are in the broad category. TED XI returns will be different as you have rightly suggested.


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Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 31/Mar/2008 at 10:31am
Originally posted by deveshkayal

I think we should remove Moser Baer and Network 18 from Emerging Midcap section.
 
Even I had similar views but was a bit hesistant to suggest that.Confused


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Posted By: Vivek Sukhani
Date Posted: 31/Mar/2008 at 10:33am
okay.....got the point. this is Broad report card.
 
Sorry for the views.


Posted By: prashantmohta
Date Posted: 31/Mar/2008 at 10:48am
aate aate mere stock ka naam rehgaya
 
unke hoton pe kuch kaapta rehgaya.....


Posted By: smartcat
Date Posted: 01/Apr/2008 at 12:01pm
TheEquityDesk XI has returned 17% (absolute) since inception (1st Jan 2007) as against the Sensex returns of 13% (absolute).
 
Unable to get MF comparison this time - ValueResearchOnline does not give the MF performance data from 1st Jan 2007.


Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 01/Apr/2008 at 12:18pm
So inspite of some really tough stocks like DIsh and excessive reliance on financials (suffering from temporary blip) we still managed to beat the index!
 
Good that you cannot get MF compables! LOL


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Posted By: vasantcool
Date Posted: 01/Apr/2008 at 12:56pm
Good to be in teens. Most of MFs have not been able to.

It is going to be another difficult year, may be worse than the last quarter. As long as we all understand this and keep some cash and prayers in spare.

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Have fun!


Posted By: investor
Date Posted: 01/Apr/2008 at 3:11pm
Yes, i think they emerged and since then, gone underground !! LOL
Originally posted by deveshkayal

I think we should remove Moser Baer and Network 18 from Emerging Midcap section.


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The people with experience get the money while people with money get experience!


Posted By: gyansr
Date Posted: 01/Apr/2008 at 5:23pm
Originally posted by smartcat

TheEquityDesk XI has returned 17% (absolute) since inception (1st Jan 2007) as against the Sensex returns of 13% (absolute).
 
Unable to get MF comparison this time - ValueResearchOnline does not give the MF performance data from 1st Jan 2007.
 
With 17% we would be closer to average return from diversified MFs. Good funds (esp. Infrastructure ones) have performed far better(more than 25% return from 1st jan 2007)


Posted By: Vivek Sukhani
Date Posted: 01/Apr/2008 at 7:32pm
Originally posted by smartcat

TheEquityDesk XI has returned 17% (absolute) since inception (1st Jan 2007) as against the Sensex returns of 13% (absolute).
 
Unable to get MF comparison this time - ValueResearchOnline does not give the MF performance data from 1st Jan 2007.
 
Sensex is not a benchmark to be compared with. How many of the Ed XI stocks form the part of Sensex? The last quarter has bought sensex much more closer( in terms of performance).


Posted By: dibyendu
Date Posted: 02/Apr/2008 at 12:39pm
Why the list does not contain stocks from the Power sector? Any specific reason for that? (Probabaly as  a new memeber, I hv missed a few points in the forum)
I would also like to have your view on 'Apar Industries'. I find the stock quite interesting.


Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 02/Apr/2008 at 12:52pm

Generally power is more hype then hope at these valuations. No one makes money buying power stocks at 15-20 times forward.

It is better to buy the suppliers rather then the generating companies.
 
 


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Posted By: dibyendu
Date Posted: 03/Apr/2008 at 3:35pm

Would u please explain what are 'suppliers'? Are they finance companies, or raw material or engeneering companies setting up power plants or capital good companies (like L&T, BHEL) supplying turbines, or companies supplying Transformers, cables etc to Electricyty boards, Transcos etc.

In case its fincance , then do u thik, Power finance, Rural Elec. Corp fit the bill.
 


Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 03/Apr/2008 at 3:49pm
engeneering companies ,capital good companies companies supplying Transformers, cables etc to Electricyty boards.

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Posted By: BGKGURU
Date Posted: 03/Apr/2008 at 4:19pm
i would like to add ptc  in ted xi


Posted By: catcall
Date Posted: 03/Apr/2008 at 10:17pm
Originally posted by basant

Generally power is more hype then hope at these valuations.It is better to buy the suppliers rather then the generating companies.

 
I would second that thought...


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Posted By: jaifin
Date Posted: 03/Apr/2008 at 11:50pm
What about GODREJ INDUSTRIES? THEY GOT STABLE RATING FROM ICRA.THEY HAVE HOLDING IN GODREJ PROPERTIES.
PROPERTIES ARE GOING TO DEVELOP PRIME PROPERTIES OF GROUP COMPANIES.
IN THE INTERVIEW WITH ADI GODREJ HE SAID THAT FUTURE CASH GENERATOR WILL BE GODREJ PROPERTIES.
THEY HAVE BIG PLANS IN PROPERTIES. I THINK THEY ARE DELAYING THE IPO OF PROPERTIES BECAUSE OF MARKET TURMOIL. I THINK THEY WILL VALUATE PROPERTIES AROUND 400 BILLION WHICH TRANSLATES GODREJ INDUSTRIES PRICE AROUND RS. 1000

BUY THIS BULTIBAGGER


Posted By: India_Bull
Date Posted: 03/Apr/2008 at 4:54am
Jaifin bhai, if you write about Godrej industries on separate thread and in small letters, I might buy this mulltibaggerSmile

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Posted By: TCSer
Date Posted: 27/Apr/2008 at 12:03pm
Originally posted by basant

engeneering companies ,capital good companies companies supplying Transformers, cables etc to Electricyty boards.
 
I find almost all transformer companies whether its Voltamp,Indotech,Emco or even newly listed Transformers n Rectifiers have been badly underperforming the market for last 2 months .The results are expected to be good n future prospects bright.Cud it be the case of taking advantage from market inefficiency n buying them? 


Posted By: kanagala
Date Posted: 22/May/2008 at 9:48pm
Sir,
Is it possible to add few more stocks to TED or some other list of few stocks. Ideally i would like to read each and every thread here. But i am finding it difficult to follow everything. I would like restrict my self to TED 11 and few more stocks.


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Posted By: smartcat
Date Posted: 22/May/2008 at 11:23pm
If you want a shorter list, stick to stocks in the first page or two pages of http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=30&PN=1 - Emerging Companies sub-forum.
 
Nobody talks much about 'Shanthi Gears' or 'Lloyd Electric' anymore - and such threads will rot at the end of 'emerging companies' section. So you can ignore those.


Posted By: Invest_in_India
Date Posted: 25/May/2008 at 10:53pm
Hello All,

I have prepared a report card for TED XI for the period from 1st April 2008 till 23rd May 2008.

Good to see that TED XI has outperformed Sensex by 2.9%. Please note that I have taken equal weightages for each of the stock in TED XI.


TED XI Price at 1st April CMP % change
Pantaloon 439 485.90 10.68
HDFC 2374 2678.30 12.82
Axis Bank 764 799.85 4.69
Voltas 179 158.30 -11.56
DIsh TV 50 53.75 7.50
Titan 1048 1200.70 14.57
IDFC 150 156.05 4.03
HDFC Bank 1325 1383.35 4.40
ENIL 365 435.00 19.18
YES Bank 168 160.10 -4.70
Blue Star 403 442.00 9.68




Total 7265 7953.3 9.47




Sensex 15626.62 16649.64 6.55




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Cheers,
Raj

"Que sera, sera,
Whatever will be, will be;
The future's not ours to see.
Que sera, sera,
What will be, will be.
Que Sera, Sera!"


Posted By: omshivaya
Date Posted: 25/May/2008 at 11:28pm
Nice initiative Raj jee. Keep it up.

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Posted By: Invest_in_India
Date Posted: 26/May/2008 at 4:47pm
Originally posted by omshivaya

Nice initiative Raj jee. Keep it up.


Thank you Om jee Smile for acknowledging it!!!

After today's fall, its good that I have prepared it yesterday Wink


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Cheers,
Raj

"Que sera, sera,
Whatever will be, will be;
The future's not ours to see.
Que sera, sera,
What will be, will be.
Que Sera, Sera!"


Posted By: Invest_in_India
Date Posted: 26/May/2008 at 12:28pm
Dear All,

If someone want to build his portfolio with only TED XI stocks. How much one should allocate(in terms of %) for  each of TED XI stock?

Senior TEDies please provide your valuable feedback.



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Cheers,
Raj

"Que sera, sera,
Whatever will be, will be;
The future's not ours to see.
Que sera, sera,
What will be, will be.
Que Sera, Sera!"


Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 26/May/2008 at 12:45pm
That is dependent on individual preferences I could put upto 40 in one stock so that comes with a bias.

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Posted By: Invest_in_India
Date Posted: 26/May/2008 at 12:50pm
Originally posted by basant

That is dependent on individual preferences I could put upto 40 in one stock so that comes with a bias.


Agree...

But assume you are a fund manager running a fund comprising of TED XI what will be those percentages according to you ? Smile


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Cheers,
Raj

"Que sera, sera,
Whatever will be, will be;
The future's not ours to see.
Que sera, sera,
What will be, will be.
Que Sera, Sera!"


Posted By: basant
Date Posted: 26/May/2008 at 12:58pm
Can you indicate my salary, performance boots, perks etc and yes, I would not be trading in the last week of December since that is the time fund managers go for holidays - at least that is what the media says.

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Posted By: Invest_in_India
Date Posted: 27/May/2008 at 7:21pm
Originally posted by basant

Can you indicate my salary, performance boots, perks etc and yes, I would not be trading in the last week of December since that is the time fund managers go for holidays - at least that is what the media says.


See now you started talking like a fund manager LOL.

I am too small & naive therefore cant comment on those. Infact you tell what are your expectations Smile. who knows someone from big investment/asset management firm is following TED Smile ...


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Cheers,
Raj

"Que sera, sera,
Whatever will be, will be;
The future's not ours to see.
Que sera, sera,
What will be, will be.
Que Sera, Sera!"


Posted By: romanov
Date Posted: 18/Jun/2008 at 1:10am

Out of the TED XI stocks which sectorial stock is going to outperform?I am finding it hard to find buyable stocks at right valuation...?



Posted By: Invest_in_India
Date Posted: 30/Jun/2008 at 12:48pm
TED XI Price on 1st April Price on 30th June % Change
ENIL 365 362.00 -0.82
Titan 1048 992.35 -5.31
Blue Star 403 374.55 -7.06
HDFC 2374 1964.85 -17.23
Pantaloon 439 351.15 -20.01
Axis Bank 764 605.05 -20.80
HDFC Bank 1325 1007.40 -23.97
Voltas 179 123.75 -30.87
IDFC 150 103.55 -30.97
YES Bank 168 114.70 -31.73
Dish TV 50 30.05 -39.90




Sensex 15626.62 13461.4 -13.86


Only 3 stocks(ENIL, Titan & Blue Star) from TED XI has outperformed Sensex in this quater.
Voltas, IDFC, Yes Bank and DishTV are worst performers in this quarter.



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Cheers,
Raj

"Que sera, sera,
Whatever will be, will be;
The future's not ours to see.
Que sera, sera,
What will be, will be.
Que Sera, Sera!"


Posted By: avinashpai
Date Posted: 01/Jul/2008 at 11:09pm
Very interesting! Just one observation/ question though.  Since most of the TED XII stocks happen to be mid caps, shouldn't the benchmark be the midcap index?

That may indicate more outperformance.


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Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 01/Jul/2008 at 10:45am
I think we should have RIL in TED XI.

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"You don't need to be a rocket scientist. Investing is not a game where the guy with the 160 IQ beat the guy with a 130 IQ. Rationality is essential"- Warren Buffett


Posted By: vijayM
Date Posted: 02/Jul/2008 at 10:57pm
PERFORMANCE OF TEDXI FROM 01-04-2008 TO 02-07-2008
 

S NO

COMPANY

CMP(NOW)

CMP 1/4/08

%

 

SENSEX

13,665

15,627

-12.6

1

DISH TV

29

50

-42.2

2

ENIL

369

371

-0.5

3

TITAN

1045

1072

-2.5

4

VOLTAS

123

173

-29.0

5

PANT RETAIL

362

436

-17.0

6

YES BANK

111

164

-32.1

7

BLUE STAR

348

405

-14.1

8

HDFC BANK

1028

1308

-21.4

9

IDFC

108

146

-26.0

10

AXIS BANK 

634

721

-12.1

11

HDFC

2037

2360

-13.7

 

 

 

AVG

-19.2

 
ENIL, TITAN & AXIS BANK HAVE OUTPERFORMED SENSEX. DISH, YES & IDFC WERE THE WORST PERFORMERS. Overall, TEDXI (-19.2%) has underperformed Sensex(-12.6%).
 
My portfolio down by 26.6%Cry. over same period. (L&T having 40% weight in my portfolio.)
 
vijayM
 
 
Another case:
 
From 26 feb 2008 till 1 July 2008*, performance of 5 MFs are as follows:
 

S NO.

FUND NAME

NAV 

NAV(now)

%

1

RELIANCE GROWTH FUND

388.6

291.4

-25.0

2

Kotak opportunities

45.9

30.9

-32.7

3

DSPML TIGER

50.3

32.0

-36.3

4

MAGNUM CONTRA FUND

53.1

37.1

-30.1

5

SUNDRAM BNP SEL MIDCAP

120.2

84.6

-29.7

 

TOTAL

 

 

-30.8

 
*Sensex over same period has dropped by 30% implying almost same performance by MFs as Sensex.
 
vijayM


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If a business does well, the stock eventually follows:Warren Buffett



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