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Topic: bio technology -- the supply / consumables part
Posted By: gopal
Subject: bio technology -- the supply / consumables part
Date Posted: 29/Mar/2008 at 9:40pm
Dear TEDies,
 
I just noticed from few days through various sources that bio - technology may be the next big thing. I am not referring to research companies, hospitals, pharma companies or institutions, since these require lots of money for research equipment, salaries, experiments, etc but of those companies which provide them with the durables ie eqipment, labs, electronic devices and consumables ie high quality chemicals, calibrated genome kits, etc
 
I just chanced to know that these companies normally supply the equipment with around 30 to 40% plus margins plus the consumables are supplied also on high margins. Further there is always the AMC to take care of lab equipment.
 
Basically companies that produce / manufacture standardized equipment, chemicals, consumables, undergo AMC. manufacturing other items essential for biotechnology work. They get paid after delivery or commisioning of equipment irrespective of the outcome of the research.
 
A few such companies are Sanmar chemicals, bangalore genie, basco,
 
Can we all add a few companies in this sector, then I will try to find out more.
 
Basant ji / cat call/ smart cat / tiger shark/ devesh bhai / vivek sukhani / om shivaya ........  your views plz 
 


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Posted By: vixie
Date Posted: 29/Mar/2008 at 11:50am
how about opto circuits ? they do make lab equipments also...


Posted By: gopal
Date Posted: 31/Mar/2008 at 11:15pm
By the way RELIANCE LIFE SCIENCES comes under which reliance shares ... can someone plz inform us all
 
 


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Posted By: nitin_jagtap
Date Posted: 31/Mar/2008 at 11:37pm
Reliance life sciences started off with a lot of hype ..ahvent heard much about it since then..nevertheless they are again into R&D ...coming to equipment manufacturers and distributors..I had read that Mukesh Ambani had alredy plans to open this kind of chain of stores for distribution of these equipments...India surely needs some good quality of equipment ...we are way too behind on this front.

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Warm REgards
Nitin Jagtap


Posted By: Vivek Sukhani
Date Posted: 31/Mar/2008 at 11:43pm
Advanced Micronic Devices is into this. they are importers and marketers as well as manufacturers.
 
Siemens Medical Solutions is also into this space or what?


Posted By: omshivaya
Date Posted: 31/Mar/2008 at 11:45pm
Originally posted by gopal

By the way RELIANCE LIFE SCIENCES comes under which reliance shares ... can someone plz inform us all
 
Tell me under which you would want it to be...I'll call Amb*** and set it up. After all, what are friends forThumbs%20Up


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Posted By: gopal
Date Posted: 31/Mar/2008 at 11:57pm
Originally posted by Vivek Sukhani

Advanced Micronic Devices is into this. they are importers and marketers as well as manufacturers.
 
Siemens Medical Solutions is also into this space or what?
 
I went through Advanced Micronic Devices data on rediff money
 
info there is:--
 
mkt cap:-              29.79
PE ratio 14.46 28/03/08
EPS (Rs) 3.86 Mar, 07
Sales (Rs crore) 12.12 Dec, 07
Face Value (Rs) 10
Net profit margin (%) 4.09 Mar, 07
Last dividend (%) 20 28/06/07
Return on average equity 11.27 Mar, 07
 
But on net info is there that this is subsidiary of Opto circuits, so Vivek bhai any special information of this company in annual report of opto circuits.
 
 


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Women are like the stock market Coz they're irrational n can bankrupt u if u're not careful


Posted By: TCSer
Date Posted: 31/Mar/2008 at 12:03pm
A Biotechnology company in true sense which got relisted at BSE(590076) recently is a true blue Biotechnology company called Camson Biotechnologies Ltd.This company  is in the field of biopesticides,hybrid seens n biofertilizers.The turnover of thr co has increased from 04 crores in March 2006 to 17 crores in Marrch 07 to nearly 45 crores in march 08 together with 20% NPM.No wonder some farsighted investors like Prof Mankekar thru his investment firm Pivotal securites n MCX thru its directors have taken sizeable stake in it .Ofcourse it was done in the bullish time of 2007 .Keep a close tab on this undiscovered gem. 


Posted By: Vivek Sukhani
Date Posted: 31/Mar/2008 at 12:12pm
Originally posted by gopal

Originally posted by Vivek Sukhani

Advanced Micronic Devices is into this. they are importers and marketers as well as manufacturers.
 
Siemens Medical Solutions is also into this space or what?
 
I went through Advanced Micronic Devices data on rediff money
 
info there is:--
 
mkt cap:-              29.79
PE ratio 14.46 28/03/08
EPS (Rs) 3.86 Mar, 07
Sales (Rs crore) 12.12 Dec, 07
Face Value (Rs) 10
Net profit margin (%) 4.09 Mar, 07
Last dividend (%) 20 28/06/07
Return on average equity 11.27 Mar, 07
 
But on net info is there that this is subsidiary of Opto circuits, so Vivek bhai any special information of this company in annual report of opto circuits.
 
 
 
What is special information?


Posted By: nitin_jagtap
Date Posted: 31/Mar/2008 at 12:14pm
Originally posted by Vivek Sukhani

Advanced Micronic Devices is into this. they are importers and marketers as well as manufacturers.
 
Siemens Medical Solutions is also into this space or what?
 
GE, Siemens and some extent Kodak are into the high end electronic medical equipment business like CT scan equipments, doplers, MRIs, X ray machines , cardiograms etc .


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Warm REgards
Nitin Jagtap


Posted By: gopal
Date Posted: 31/Mar/2008 at 12:17pm
Originally posted by Vivek Sukhani

Originally posted by gopal

Originally posted by Vivek Sukhani

Advanced Micronic Devices is into this. they are importers and marketers as well as manufacturers.
 
Siemens Medical Solutions is also into this space or what?
 
I went through Advanced Micronic Devices data on rediff money
 
info there is:--
 
mkt cap:-              29.79
PE ratio 14.46 28/03/08
EPS (Rs) 3.86 Mar, 07
Sales (Rs crore) 12.12 Dec, 07
Face Value (Rs) 10
Net profit margin (%) 4.09 Mar, 07
Last dividend (%) 20 28/06/07
Return on average equity 11.27 Mar, 07
 
But on net info is there that this is subsidiary of Opto circuits, so Vivek bhai any special information of this company in annual report of opto circuits.
 
 
 
What is special information?
 
Some info such as fundamentals, insight of the company, any other information regarding advanced micronic devices mentioned in the annual report bhai
 


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Women are like the stock market Coz they're irrational n can bankrupt u if u're not careful


Posted By: Vivek Sukhani
Date Posted: 31/Mar/2008 at 12:18pm
Even Johnson's and Bayer is into such a field. At least in diabetes solutions, I can say.


Posted By: kulman
Date Posted: 01/Apr/2008 at 12:27pm
Essel Propack's latest move....
 
Essel Propack Ltd has informed BSE that Tacpro Inc., USA, a subsidiary of Lamitube Technologies (Cyprus) Ltd, which in turn is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Company has intimated to the Company about the acquisition of 100% shareholding of Catheter and Disposables Technology, Inc., a Company based in Minneapolis, USA and in the business of Medical Devices.
 
Source: BSE
 


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Posted By: gopal
Date Posted: 01/Apr/2008 at 6:39pm

I was following up on biotechnology research equipment supplying comapnies. In that I just came to know that even NIIT has entered biotechnology field. They are now running courses on genome research & studies also at delhi.

Majority of orders I have come to know are for vortex shakers, baths, crogenic baths, incubators, life cell imagers, spectrophotometer, electro ploroscence baths, ph meters, rotary shakers, genome tube vibrators, water bath shaker, genome culture instruments, orbital shakers, genome tag marking indicators, genome stains, etc

Now I am trying to find companies which make or sell them. Basantji do you have any idea of Tarsons, it is Calcutta based company.

 
 


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Women are like the stock market Coz they're irrational n can bankrupt u if u're not careful



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