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WockHardt Hospitals

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Topic: WockHardt Hospitals
Posted By: smartcat
Subject: WockHardt Hospitals
Date Posted: 21/Jan/2008 at 3:19pm
My brother had a fall on Friday and broke a few bones on his knee. We put him to Wockhardt Hospital in Bangalore. When hospital people came to know that he had health insurance for up to Rs. 1 lac, they could barely hide their glee.
 
They recommended X-ray, MRI scan (Rs. 8,000) and deluxe room (obviously). Add doctor consultancy fees and orthoscopy surgery to the bill - and now the insurance company will end up paying Rs. 60,000 - just for a knee fracture.
 
Applying the gory version of Peter Lynch's principles, I'm wondering if it makes sense to buy Wockhardt Hospitals stock after it gets listed (IPO coming in the next few weeks).
 
With the spread of health insurance and rise in lifestyle diseases like Diabetes, I'm thinking branded hospitals like Wockhardt can make good money.



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Posted By: deveshkayal
Date Posted: 21/Jan/2008 at 3:30pm
Some listed company holds stake in Wockhardt. Cant recollect the name though.

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Posted By: nitin_jagtap
Date Posted: 21/Jan/2008 at 3:47pm
Originally posted by smartcat

My brother had a fall on Friday and broke a few bones on his knee. We put him to Wockhardt Hospital in Bangalore. When hospital people came to know that he had health insurance for up to Rs. 1 lac, they could barely hide their glee.
 
They recommended X-ray, MRI scan (Rs. 8,000) and deluxe room (obviously). Add doctor consultancy fees and orthoscopy surgery to the bill - and now the insurance company will end up paying Rs. 60,000 - just for a knee fracture.
 
Applying the gory version of Peter Lynch's principles, I'm wondering if it makes sense to buy Wockhardt Hospitals stock after it gets listed (IPO coming in the next few weeks).
 
With the spread of health insurance and rise in lifestyle diseases like Diabetes, I'm thinking branded hospitals like Wockhardt can make good money.
 
Good case to avoid companies that are majorly into health insurance ..as for hospitals yes there is a good case in terms of no of beds /1000 , no of people dependant on quality healthcare etc etc ..but the point is most of these business have huge capital requirements right from buildings upto the expensive equipment that they need to buy and refurbish every now and then ..the capex plans could hurt their earnings for quite some time .
 
Even in the long term we need to see what kind of model they operate in whether its the build and own model or the lease model or the franchise model ...


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Posted By: jstk
Date Posted: 21/Jan/2008 at 4:36pm
Originally posted by deveshkayal

Some listed company holds stake in Wockhardt. Cant recollect the name though.
 
carol info


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Posted By: market_geek
Date Posted: 21/Jan/2008 at 6:16pm
carol info holds approx 70 lakhs shares of WockHardt Hospitals .


Posted By: rdyn
Date Posted: 06/Feb/2011 at 2:16am
Anyone still tracking WockHardt.

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Posted By: excel_monkey
Date Posted: 06/Feb/2011 at 2:30am
here is the Wockhardt thread

http://www.theequitydesk.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2841&KW=wockhardt&PD=1

might do EBITDA of 800 to 1000 cr for FY 2012
Originally posted by rdyn

Anyone still tracking WockHardt.


Posted By: barla
Date Posted: 07/Feb/2011 at 12:08pm

Wockhardt hospital was part of carol info, then spun off. Who owns carol info now. How did they end up with a workhardt hospital stake when the hospital was demerged.



Posted By: vinvestor2010
Date Posted: 11/Aug/2011 at 10:42am
In their latest offer received by Danone, there is an interesting article on Carol in http://www.livemint.com/2011/08/12000340/Wockhardt-deal-Carol-takes-th.html?h=B - today's Livemint
It has already shot up 13% around 3rd August Embarrassed
But even now with an enterprise value of Rs 830 cr i.e. 792 cr market cap + 38 cr of debt and contingent liabilties, an amount of Rs 320 cr would go to Carol Info i.e. about 38% of EV on a per share basis.
However not clear about the tax impact etc..
Is this a good opportunity on a per share basis of a one time event??
Plz note till yesterday promoters have bought 1%+ more in insider buying
 



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