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Quote prosperity Replybullet Posted: 27/Sep/2006 at 6:36pm
Does this negative news on TV18 means i'll be able to get a chance to buy TV18 at a cheaper rate tomorrow ?
 
Since tomorrow is also derivatives settlement day - i hope market corrects and hence TV18 ... i am waiting for it to correct to 575-580 levels so that i can enter at lower levels
 
 
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Quote Vivek Sukhani Replybullet Posted: 27/Sep/2006 at 7:00pm
Actually, I dont think TV18's price will face much of a prob because of this although its a matter of integrity on the part of the channel. And the order is on the recoomendation of Mr. Easow on moneycontrol and not on CNBC. The problem is, we are still in the nascent stages of Integrity and Ethics management. Seriously, we dont have such rigid standards of disclosure as there are in countries which have reached the prime in the world of finance. Thats what we are lacking at this juncture, but I am happy to see our investigative agencies becoming efficient enough to discover such cases. And there is no point in casting any remark on Mr. Easow... SEBI has already done enough and I dont think he will ever be able to regain his image and the loss of face he has suffered is quite fine.
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Quote omshivaya Replybullet Posted: 27/Sep/2006 at 7:22pm
Ya...Loss of image and loss of face...and profits on loads of money! most people would eagerly face any image or decency loss if they were given 10 crore rupees today cash(example)
 
Anyhow, I am sure Mathew jee must have given disclosures in his stocks so why all the fuss by SEBI. Morally he was damn wrong, legally dont think so!!!??
 
 
Did he say that he or his friends or family dont own the stocks? If he did that, then surely he is at fault!


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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 27/Sep/2006 at 7:43pm
am sure Mathew jee must have given disclosures in his stocks 
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Disclosure was for buying did not mean he would sell it the same day. Also we need to be cautious about people who are eager to give disclosures as soon as a stock is asked. Some other TA from Kol junps on a disclosure even while the conversation is not finished they want to over emphasize - I am buying what about you? This should not be done.YOu cannot recommend people to buy a stock at 9.55 and sell you holding on the same day.
 
ANd I do not believe that Rs 10 crore figure!!!
 
Power your trade  I am not sure how many people would renew it. But froma few unfortunate ones who had subscribed told me that the recommendations were already up a few percentage points the moment they got the SMS.
 
Have you seen that Catch! Catch! catch! Bulls will lose their shirts and bears their pants.... TA who recommends stocks saying This had hit 20% and so on. The problem with those recom was they came to you aftre a stock was up 16% - 17%. ANother unfortunate investors who had subscribed to that service told me.
 
I would be happy to see how much of their clients came with repeat subscription renewals to these TA. I CAN BET IT IS LESS THEN 50%. Does not mean people are getting smarter they are just changie experts. The total number of people who trade on these news remain the same.
 
 


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Quote Vivek Sukhani Replybullet Posted: 27/Sep/2006 at 7:54pm
Saying immediately may be a good habit if they are saying so so that they need not recall back whether their holdings match with the stocks they discuss when subsequestly they are asked for it. But it does look weird. In this context, I mustalso tell you that companies which place a lot of advertisements on the business channel regarding their financial performance are to be beleived only after thorough enquiry. I burnt my fingers in Teledata... have seen people do so in companies like rathi udyaog. Somehow, I beleive performers dont need to show their achievements and they never do, in practice.
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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 27/Sep/2006 at 8:12pm
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One of my friends had bought huge positions in Amar Remedies and Ambika Agarbattis after watching their advertisements on the business channels. Sad that he is cursing the channels now.
 
 
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Quote Vivek Sukhani Replybullet Posted: 27/Sep/2006 at 8:23pm
Someway down the line, I always fear something when I listen to something good about a company and especially from the horse's mouth. I also beleive, the way our industrials announce plans and MOU getting signed but thereafter what happens is not known at all.. I attend many AGMs and try to find out the management's body talk and trust me, most of them fail to live up. More often than not, it is mindless expansion which destroys a company rather than anything else. Sometimes, the trap is too lucrative to not to fall into it.This time , you will see many companies getting into real estate development and the rest though future now, will be history soon.
 
Newspaper advertisements are equally dangerous. I rememeber a company by the name of IFSL Limited, which became very popular when it announced some plans of converting municipal waste into energy. and used to give big advertisements in newspapers.... and the stock is making new 52-week lows now.
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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 03/Oct/2006 at 12:42pm
Lots of those firangi expert analysts are currently in Mumbai for some investment conference. They are enjoying 5-star treatment & facilities, getting media coverage all at the cost of gullible "investors". Look at the way they are changing their previous opinions/forecasts easily! It is shameless.
 
New names for those large foreign investment bankers should be:
 
GOLDMAN SACHS = GOLDMAN SUCKS
MORGAN STANLEY = MORON STANLEY
LEHMAN BROTHERS = LEMMING BROTHERS
JP MORGAN CHASE = JERK POOP MONEY CHASING
MERYLL LYNCH = MERYLL LEECH
EPFR = ENDLESS PUKING FAALTU RESEARCH
CLSA = CLUELESS LITTER SYSTEMATICALLY ARRANGED
 
 
 
 
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