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Quote kumardiwesh Replybullet Posted: 22/Jan/2009 at 1:06am
Kotak Mahindra Bank: Key Takeaways

    * Consolidated total income at Rs 1685 crore Vs Rs 1850 crore (QoQ) and Vs Rs 2483 crore (YoY).
    * Cons Capital Adequacy Ratio at around 20% ( and at 21% incl current years' profits)
    * Cons advances at Rs 23,865 crore Vs Rs 21,420 crore (YoY), Cons NIM at 6% Vs 5.7% (YoY). Cons NPA at 1.01%.
    * Cons book value per share at Rs 183/sh.
    * Standalone PAT at Rs 71 crore Vs Rs 48 crore (QoQ), standalone NII at Rs 383 crore Vs Rs 347 crore (YoY). Have 209 branches and 375 ATMs, as on December 2008.
    * Deposits as on December 31, 2008 were Rs 14,841 crore Vs Rs 14,279 crore (YoY). CASA deposits comprised 26% of total deposits. Total number of deposit accounts over 10 lakhs.
    * Standalone CAR at 17% Vs 18.4% (YoY). Tier-1 ratio at 13.8%.
    * Bank to use capital effeciently in the future. Bank will continue to be conservative on credit.
    * Taking calibrated exposure on prop. side.
    * Market share lost in Kotak Securities, Rs 39.2 crore taken off from topline.
    * Bank not carrying significant portfolio in aquisitions, continue to follow stringent RBI guidelines.
    * Standard provision stands at 2%.
    * Asset Under Management (AUM) stands at Rs 14,000 crore.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 22/Jan/2009 at 4:53am
Just if they can focus on keeping the RoE at near about 20% everything else is follow. At the present market cap Kotak Bank looks cheap but it is more of arelative question these days.
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Quote Mr. V Replybullet Posted: 22/Jan/2009 at 9:53am
Everything looks cheap relative to their prospectives during the bull period
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Quote master Replybullet Posted: 23/Jan/2009 at 8:45pm
Originally posted by kumardiwesh

What is the percentage of NPA for KOTAK?
 
Gross NPA for 9 months ended Dec 31, 2008 at 3.68% (up from 2.48% same period previous year). In absolute terms, Rs 891 crore.
 
Net NPA for 9 months ended Dec 31, 2008 at 2.35% (up from 1.55% same period previous year). In absolute terms, Rs 561 crore.
 
ROA has fallen to 1.09% from 2.18%.
 
I believe they are going more conservative on credit hereon. Issue is whether all  negatives are now factored in the price?
 
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Quote kumardiwesh Replybullet Posted: 23/Jan/2009 at 8:58pm
Their NPAs are very high.
What is their credit/deposit ratio?
Their growth might be hampered if NPAs are high and/or if C/D is high?
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Quote master Replybullet Posted: 23/Jan/2009 at 9:11pm
NPA level is not the only issue.
 
There is another qualification -
 
the Group has changed its accounting policy in relation to structured liabilities. The derivative embedded in the structured liabilities is separately valued at each reporting date. The net mark to mark loss on capital market derivatives are provided for and the net mark to market gains are ignored keeping in view the principle of prudence.
 
Had the previous accounting policy been followed the profit after tax for the quarter ended 31st December, 2008 would have been higher by Rs. 1,176.83 lakhs net and for the nine months ended 31st December, 2008 lower by Rs. 1,133.25 lakhs net.


 
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Quote kanagala Replybullet Posted: 23/Jan/2009 at 9:26pm
Negative aricle on KMB got it from a blog. I am not familiar with numbers. Can some one verify them?

Kotak Mahindra Bank-The Mirror Cracked From Side To Side
  The long held halo of invincibility built around private sector banks and the resultant high valuations that they have been fetching so far, should get settled once and for all after looking up the Q3 numbers of Kotak Mahindra Bank.

  Not only is the bank performance an unmitigated disaster, it holds evil portents for the future. The stock should trade between Rs 125 to Rs 150 at 7 times FY09e EPS and 0.75 times price to estimated book value for March 2009.

  Dame Agatha Christie might in some unique way have been thinking of Kotak Bank when she wrote her memorable novel, "The Mirror Cracked From Side To Side" way back in 1962.

  Now let us look at the numbers presented by Kotak Bank:

  -Total Assets managed/Advised by the Group as on December 31, 2008 were Rs 320 bn. Compare this to managed assets of Rs 372 bn in September 2008 and Rs 460 bn in December 2007, and the contraction of operational size becomes visible. A contraction of Rs 140 bn yoy.

  -Standalone PAT of Kotak Bank is Rs 71 crore for Q3 FY08, down 30 per cent qoq over December 08 PAT of Rs 101 crore.

  -For the fourth consecutive quarter Kotak Bank has reported Negative Revenues from Treasury-Insurance activities. The Negative Revenues being Rs 4798 mn for the 9 months to December 2008, and Rs 1658 mn and Rs 585 mn respectively for Q308, and Q208.

  -Retail liabilities and branch banking continue to bleed Kotak Bank reporting PBT loss of Rs 1847 mn  (Rs 1356 mn) for the nine months to December 2008.

  -Losses on Life Insurance on the PBT level for the nine months to December 2008 are Rs 222 mn (Rs 729 mn), and losses at the PBT level on Credit Cards are a whopping Rs 488 mn for the period to December 2008. Incidentally credit cards were launched only in 2008, so this loss is a first of its kind for Kotak Bank.

  -Net NPAs have tripled to 1 per cent as compared to December 2007 and March 2008 Net NPAs of 0.3 per cent.

  -As a consequence of the above, Consolidated profits for Kotak Bank have dropped down to Rs 4417 mn in the nine months to December 2008, against comparable yoy figures of Rs 7511 mn, a fall of 42 per cent.

  -Consolidated nine month EPS works out to Rs 12.7 against yoy figure of Rs 22.30 again a fall of 44 per cent.

  -Book Value per share of Kotak Bank is Rs 183, a mere increase of Rs 4 per share since September 2008 and a miserly increase of 8 per cent over March 2008 book value of Rs 168 per share.

  -Considering the de-growth of the Bank's Asset size and the none too rosy economic scenario unfolding ahead of us, Kotak Bank does not deserve a PE of 17 on forecast FY09 EPS of Rs 16. Further it does not justify a premium multiple to December 2008 Book Value of Rs 183 per share.

  -The stock should trade at single digit PE multiples on the lower side say 7-8, and a Price to Book exceeding no more than 0.75 times.

  -Kotak Mahindra Bank stock could lose atleast 50 per cent of its market capitalisation from here to March 2009, a possible target price of Rs 125-Rs 150 per share. This could happen even within the next few days.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 23/Jan/2009 at 9:49pm

Companies like Kotak Bank, R Cap, Indiainfoline, Geojit, Edelweiss are bull market stocks in bearish conditions they get a double whammy not only does the PE decline the EPS also moves down hence lending a double blow.

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