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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 29/May/2007 at 4:47pm
You aren't sounding angry at all. But the sound might make others angry !!LOL LOL 
 
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Quote Vivek Sukhani Replybullet Posted: 29/May/2007 at 4:57pm
actually mere mein aaj kisi ka bhoot ghoos gaya hai.....subah se sabse larai ho rahi hai....
 
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Quote BubbleVision Replybullet Posted: 29/May/2007 at 5:01pm
I have found the eighth wonder of the world. It’s compounding!
…..Albert Einstein.
You can't make money if you are unwilling to lose...It's like willing to breathe in but not willing to breathe out. -- ED SEYKOTA ....Read Disclaimer!
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Quote Vivek Sukhani Replybullet Posted: 29/May/2007 at 7:14pm
In many a ways, I believr you are a very unique investor Sir.....as far as I know those investors/speculators who suffered in that mayhem have never managed a re-entry.....sometimes when I am in Lyons Range for some work, I come across some of them and what i sense is that they have become very deranged.... they ask how much is ITC , how much is ITC, 30 times in an hour......its that kinda fear psichosis about markets......as if someone has been left too stunned to feel normal or have been given external shocks....
 
In many a ways, my life has been influenced by seeing them.....I understand its negative way of looking at things, but when the cost of failure is something which can make you suffer for your life, i always try to behumble myself and just pray to god....and in that ways, you call it luck/destiny or God's grace, I beleive rather have been made to beleive that its very very necesary....as dad says, always be humble before the markets otherwise if you try to keep your neck too straight, the markets will bend will bend it in a manner you cannot imagine......he always tries to make me understand and force me to look at past prices so that I never get carried away.....
 
As GE Shipping went up today, some of my people called me up and as I was getting happier, he told me me one thing, in case you are not comfortable in adding up when its 60 p.c. down from here, sell it off.....he's an extreme faithful yet he understands the power of liquidity and he beleives that prices are high and will go higher so long as suplly of stocks is less than the demand for it.......and when the reverse thing will happen, you will only have fundamentals in your hand......its true, you may complain that I lack conviction, but Sir, I dont think investors will ever like a round-trip in life( your CMP becoming equal to the purchase price after having gone up manifold).... the experience can be very frustrating.
 
I am a humble student, and I know nothing except that I have to be humble before the markets.....true Mr. Market may be irrational but its the Cover Page of the intelligent Investor which I always remember the most...I just want to know what leads to disaster, because in my quest I dont want to be an Abhimanyu, sure I want to brave but not a martyr....in order to fight this chakravyuha, I need a good saarthi, which can be no better than He the Divine , His blessing.
 
I may appear a bit confused and awe-struck but as the calls came from some well-wishers, i also got afraid....
 
Basant Sir, its your guidance we look upto........one behaves stupidly out of ignorance and sometimes the after-events make his best of moves look like stupid...
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Quote kannanravi1 Replybullet Posted: 29/May/2007 at 7:49pm
Lalit, I read a study by Motilal Oswal and it shows that over the past 15 yrs Hero Honda came at the top among large caps with 40% CAGR and I think Ranbaxy came in second with little over 30.
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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 29/May/2007 at 7:53pm
Basant Ji, When you talk about  60% CAGR for 10 years and then go on to explain bits of your portfolio strategy, it might lead to mungerilaalism.
 
I suggest you ask everybody to look at your disclaimer again.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 29/May/2007 at 8:09pm
Originally posted by smartcat

Basant Ji, When you talk about  60% CAGR for 10 years and then go on to explain bits of your portfolio strategy, it might lead to mungerilaalism.
 
I suggest you ask everybody to look at your disclaimer again.
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You are right, somehow I feel that people are getting restless to punch in with their comments because 60% CAGR looks too high for a strech of 10 years!!!But...
 
1) I just laid down a table and never procliamed whether I could or could not do it.
 
2) There is absolutely no invitation to invest on any of the themes that I would have indicated as a path to this magical effort!
 
3) Instead of discussing the magic of compounding and how we should be focused on the same members were getting head over heals to get into a criticism mode.
 
Now in high school we were taught that the compound interest formula was P(1 + r/100) => to the power of n
 
where :
p= initial capital
r= rate of interest
n= number of years
 
Now I did not see anyone say that Ok let us do 40% and get to that figure of 100 times in say 15 years everytime we remain focused on "r" the rate of interest we are always ignoring n the number of years and P the initial capital.
 
In one of the posts I mentioned that making a 10 bagger was ordinary on some money that we can afford to lose  (small "p") but extremely extraordinary on a money that we cannot afford to lose (very large 'p').
 
Just getting 100 times richer is not the issue the issue is to create enough wealth to be considered wealthy. SO if you think that Rs 5 crore is enough for you you can start with Rs 5 lacs and aim at 60% or with 40 lacs and aim at 30%. The onus is on the investor.
 
Taking the debate on this line would have been far more beneficial rather then shadow boxing about pantaloon and InfosysSmile
 
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Quote omshivaya Replybullet Posted: 29/May/2007 at 8:43pm
Originally posted by basant

Originally posted by smartcat

Basant Ji, When you talk about  60% CAGR for 10 years and then go on to explain bits of your portfolio strategy, it might lead to mungerilaalism.
 
I suggest you ask everybody to look at your disclaimer again.
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You are right, somehow I feel that people are getting restless to punch in with their comments because 60% CAGR looks too high for a strech of 10 years!!!But...
 
1) I just laid down a table and never procliamed whether I could or could not do it.
 
2) There is absolutely no invitation to invest on any of the themes that I would have indicated as a path to this magical effort!
 
3) Instead of discussing the magic of compounding and how we should be focused on the same members were getting head over heals to get into a criticism mode.
 
Now in high school we were taught that the compound interest formula was P(1 + r/100) => to the power of n
 
where :
p= initial capital
r= rate of interest
n= number of years
 
Now I did not see anyone say that Ok let us do 40% and get to that figure of 100 times in say 15 years everytime we remain focused on "r" the rate of interest we are always ignoring n the number of years and P the initial capital.
 
In one of the posts I mentioned that making a 10 bagger was ordinary on some money that we can afford to lose  (small "p") but extremely extraordinary on a money that we cannot afford to lose (very large 'p').
 
Just getting 100 times richer is not the issue the issue is to create enough wealth to be considered wealthy. SO if you think that Rs 5 crore is enough for you you can start with Rs 5 lacs and aim at 60% or with 40 lacs and aim at 30%. The onus is on the investor.
 
Taking the debate on this line would have been far more beneficial rather then shadow boxing about pantaloon and InfosysSmile
 
 
Yes, anyone who thinks the target of 60% CAGR for 10 years is futile and obnoxious should simply ignore this thread.
 
Let the people who want to focus on this target discuss and strategize. The TEDdies who are interested, stay focused. There will be many distractions for sure but one should be really focused on this goal as it is not a simple task and as I said earlier, if we focus on 60%, then at least we would make 40-45%. Let's try rather than go into every other discussion other than the topic mentioned.


Edited by basant - 29/May/2007 at 9:08pm
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