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omshivaya
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 Posted: 09/Feb/2008 at 3:28pm |
Exceptional point Tiger jee, and truly "out of the box thinking".
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The most important quality for an investor is temperament,not intellect.A temperament that neither derives great pleasure from being with the crowd nor against it
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kulman
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 Posted: 08/Apr/2008 at 9:10am |
As small individual investors we need to be careful with IPOs, generally speaking.
It's afterall a game.....read on: What have IPOs got to do with cricket?
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Janak.merchant1
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 Posted: 17/Apr/2008 at 12:37pm |
Originally posted by kulman
Please mark the words....I said almost all (not all). One should be extra careful because lots of promoters take advantage of bull runs & IPO fad.
Besides, true value of the stock cannot be determined by either by its IPO issue price or listing price. Finally, it all boils down to earnings & growth dear OmShivayjee. |
And b4 the ipo many co might be jacking up their EPS.
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I love my money, not my opinion. So i am ready and willing to change my opinion for the sake of protecting my money.
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valueman
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 Posted: 29/Apr/2008 at 11:07am |
Was this the reason why people invested in Reliance Power IPO ?
Reliance Power Results: invests money in Mutual Funds
http://invest-n-trade.blogspot.com/
There is some news for the shareholders of Reliance Power shares. In the recently reported results by the Reliance Power Company, it reported that more than 98% of the money raised through the Reliance Power IPO has been invested in Mutual Funds. Reliance Power Financial results Now I don’t know what to say – whether it is a good investment or a bad investment. Good, because investments in mutual funds have helped the Reliance Power company earn a profit of around 94 Crore Rs. Bad, because this is how the investors money is betted upon. Is this what investors have given the money to the Reliance Power Management for?
Interestingly, Reliance Power has not revealed which mutual funds the money has been invested. So, investors are completely blind about whether their invested money has been betted upon infrastructure related funds, or growing economy funds, or simply put into bonds based funds.
Through the IPO, a total of 11,562 Crores were raised. Out of which, 11412.81 Crores were invested in Mutual funds. That’s exactly 98.8% of the money. On this investment, the company managed to get a net return of 94.6 Crores. That’s a meager return of just 0.83%. What more can you expect from a Zero Watt Power Company, which is expected to produce real power only after 3 to 5 years. It is we investors who betted upon this stock.
The IPO offer document says that the company “intends to invest the funds from the issue in interest bearing liquid instruments including deposits with banks and investments in mutual funds. These investments may include investments in mutual funds managed or financial products sold by one of our affiliates, RCL (Reliance Capital).”
As per the news, The company has spent only Rs 25.83 crore as of March 31, 2008 in construction and development of its various projects. That’s a mere 0.22% of the IPO money actually invested.
Let’s see when actually this company produces real power and when will the investors be able to get the returns on investments. The investors are desperately waiting for the allotment date for Reliance Power Bonus shares. No respite in sight.
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To achieve satisfactory investment results is easier than most people realize ; to achieve superior results is harder than it looks .
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smartcat
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R-Power is investing $650 million in the development of a coal mine in Indonesia - and this mine is expected to hold 25% of Indonesia's coal reserves.
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Vivek Sukhani
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 Posted: 30/Apr/2008 at 3:34pm |
Originally posted by smartcat
R-Power is investing $650 million in the development of a coal mine in Indonesia - and this mine is expected to hold 25% of Indonesia's coal reserves.
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Did i hear someone say, " There is plenty a slip between the cup and the lip"?????
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smartcat
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Yeah, I keep hearing voices like that too. But hearing voices in the head is not supposed to be good though.
Here's the article on what R-Power is doing, or atleast, planning to do with all that money.
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Vivek Sukhani
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 Posted: 30/Apr/2008 at 3:52pm |
Originally posted by smartcat
Yeah, I keep hearing voices like that too. But hearing voices in the head is not supposed to be good though.
Here's the article on what R-Power is doing, or atleast, planning to do with all that money.
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But is it bad enough to be ignored 
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