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Quote barla Replybullet Posted: 17/Feb/2011 at 10:18pm
average historical PE is around 15
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Quote barla Replybullet Posted: 18/Feb/2011 at 4:08pm
cut and paste, but an important lesson here, do not rely on the price alone.
 
 
When markets are down, most investors start panicking. It's a normal reaction. After all who will not panic when they see their hard earned money going down? But this panic leads to the most irrational behavior. At such times they would do well to remember 2 most important things.

The first one is to "not start bottom fishing". Most investors who think of themselves as rational, start calling the bottom for different stocks. They start looking at all available data to identify when the stock will bottom out. They prefer to stand on the side of the road before picking up any investment. More often than not, these investors end up not investing at all. They miss all good opportunities. The truth is it is almost impossible to call the "bottom" for any stock. It is better to have a valuation band in mind rather than having a bottomed out stock price in mind. Invest when valuations are low so as to not miss out an opportunity.

The second thing is to "not sell in panic". This is something most investors tend to do. When they see prices of stocks hitting new lows, they tend to panic and sell their investments. But at such times they should actually question as to why are they selling? If there is nothing wrong in the company's fundamentals then just selling for the sake of it, just doesn't make sense. Instead such falls should be viewed as an opportunity to buy more of the good stocks.

Markets are driven partly by fundamentals and partly by emotions. When emotions run at a tangent to fundamentals, and the markets fall, it just indicates a good buying opportunity. It would do well for investors to treat market falls as an opportunity to pick up their favorite fundamentally sound stocks.

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Quote vaib Replybullet Posted: 18/Feb/2011 at 12:27pm
No need to sell if don't need money :P
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Quote barla Replybullet Posted: 21/Feb/2011 at 12:58pm
 
Current Sensex PE is 19.76.
 
Market close was18154
 
Current EPS is 918
 
 
Now todays DNA says that we must expect an EPS downgrade.
 
 
 
Conclusion from the article is:
 
                                             Current year  next year       
Merrill Lynch expectations        1035                1265
 
Motilal Oswal                                                     1262 
 
 
So over the current EPS these two brokerages are expecting about 33% growth in EPS for the next financial year end.
 
All the rest in the article are talking of 16-18% growth. So their expectations for the next year end is about EPS of 1050.
 
Even at a sensex PE of about 25 the most optimistic target for sensex next year is 31625. This is almost a 90% growth over current sensex.
 
The consensus at 18% EPS growth and PE of 20 is sensex at 21000. This is 5% return over current sensex.
 
Can we trust the numbers being bandied about by these brokerages or they simply pick some number from the air.
 
 


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Quote barla Replybullet Posted: 22/Feb/2011 at 4:04pm
 
RELIANCE STEADY UNDERPERFORMER OF THE MARKET.
 
 
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Reliance has announced what is being described as a game

changing deal with BP worth billions of dollars and possibly India’s
biggest FDI deal. But is it game changing for the stock market?
 Is Reliance still the axis around which the market revolves?
 My research throws up an unequivocal no as the answer.

Let’s turn the clock back to June 2009. That was the

time RIL used to contribute a massive 16.3% to the Sensex. Since then
 the weight has gradually come down quarter after quarter and it has
now fallen to 11.9% - still largest, but clearly quite a dilution from
almost 2 years back. Here is the data

Has%20RIL%20lost%20its%20mojo?

RIL weight in Sensex

Weight (%)

June 2009

16.3

Dec 2009

14.8

March 2010

14.5

June 2010

14.3

Sep 2010

11.5

Dec 2010

12.1

Current

11.9

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The contenders on the other hand have been fast in climbing up the

 ladder. While HUL has fallen by the wayside, ITC and Infosys are
giving RIL a strong run for its money. Here is the data

RIL, ITC difference

Difference(%)

June 2009

9.2

Dec 2009

7.1

March 2010

6.5

June 2010

5.2

Sep 2010

2.1

Dec 2010

3.0

Current

3.0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not just that, the combined weight of ITC and Infosys now is

 much higher than RIL. Not long back, RIL used to have higher weight
than the other 2 combined. Here is the data

RIL Vs ITC+Infosys

RIL Weight

Weight of ITC+Infosys

June 2009

16.3

13.8

Dec 2009

14.8

15.6

March 2010

14.5

16

June 2010

14.3

17.3

Sep 2010

11.5

17.4

Dec 2010

12.1

17.9

Current

11.9

18

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And now, let’s talk about the single most important factor for that

change, the stock price performance. And just look at the following data, its
startling. RIL has been a massive underperformer.

Stock return

RIL Stock

ITC Stock

Infosys Stock

Since June 2009

-5%

+66%

+78%

Since Dec 2009

-12%

+26%

+21%

Since Mar 2010

-11%

+20%

+21%

Since June 2010

-12%

+4%

+13%

Since Sep 2010

-3%

-11%

+4%

Since Dec 2010

-9.6%

-9.3%

-8.2%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Conclusion: Has RIL lost its mojo? Well, it remains a very important

 stock for the market, but it does not make or break the market
any more. It's similar to what Sachin Tendulkar is to the Indian
cricket team. 10 years back, he was a one man team. Today,
he remains the most important member but the team does not depend
on just him.

Disclaimer: The author of this article does not invest/trade in stock markets

 including derivatives. His only exposure to stock markets is via the stock
options of TV18 and Network18 given to him by his company as part of his compensation.

By Anuj Singhal, Senior Editor at CNBC-TV18



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Quote barla Replybullet Posted: 24/Feb/2011 at 12:26pm
Basantjee / Moderator
 
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Why not?
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Quote barla Replybullet Posted: 24/Feb/2011 at 3:28pm
Thanks a lot.
 
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Why not?
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