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Quote arunshah2k Replybullet Posted: 01/Aug/2010 at 9:22am
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-The loans are at an average rate of 20-30%.
So if the poor have a cost of capital of 30%, do their businesses earn return on capital greater than 30% because only then they get richer i.e. return on capital is greater than cost of capital then we get richer.
Something to think about


This is interesting point!!
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Quote Alok Bhola Replybullet Posted: 02/Aug/2010 at 11:31am
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The loans are at an average rate of 20-30%.
So if the poor have a cost of capital of 30%, do their businesses earn return on capital greater than 30% because only then they get richer i.e. return on capital is greater than cost of capital then we get richer.
Something to think about
 
Their micro businesses are typically a combination of capital and their labor invested and hence the returns cannot be computed in terms of the capital invested alone.
 
For eg, a poor person might use the loan to buy, say, a rickshaw and vegetables and then sell those from door to door. The returns he will get would be a combination of the capital invested and his full time labor in selling from house to house.
 
Hence, the returns here (if calculated merely in terms of capital invested) would be very high, maybe more than 100%.
 
Incidently, in my opinion, the best investment in the micro / small finance space is Shriram Transport Finance Company, even though it is generally not looked at as a micro finance lender as their loans are typically a bit higher than the generally accepted microfinance threshold.
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Quote Market Maniac Replybullet Posted: 09/Aug/2010 at 4:21am
Post issue P/BV = 4x is justifiable.

SE Investments is probably a fake company.

Microfinance is a bubble but it has a long way to inflate.

SKS is the Netscape of the Microfinance bubble.

Good listing expected.
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Quote chimak10 Replybullet Posted: 11/Aug/2010 at 9:28am
I love bubbles........
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Quote shyama Replybullet Posted: 16/Sep/2010 at 1:43am
1. The government has a role to play in providing start-up funds for various economic growth initiatives that will ultimately be carried out within the private sector, perhaps with some basic regulation.
2. The government also has a role to play in preventing monopolies/oligopolies.
3. The creation of small businesses in low-income areas, perhaps with the aid of microfinance, is more effective in reducing poverty than welfare.
4. The government should not bother funding the arts or similar "circus" efforts unless they can demonstrate tangible economic and educational payoffs.
5. It is not only possible, but ideal to unite economic expansion with environmental stewardship and other forms of ethical business practices.
6. Some sectors deserve a stronger union presence (retail, agriculture, etc.) and some deserve a weaker one (education, etc.), but unions are fundamentally good.




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Quote Kabootar Replybullet Posted: 06/Oct/2010 at 1:16am
Originally posted by chimak10

I love bubbles........


That's very Dude-like of you to say :D

Just read about the sacking of the SKS Microfinance CEO. It seems he clashed with Akula and was packed off. What is funny however is that his "performance issues" are being cited by company insiders all over the media, when he has been running the company since 2008 AND steered it through a dream listing. Sacking him also means he does not get to have any options, apparently estimated at Rs 300 CRORE! It seems this row will go on for some time.
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Quote TCSer Replybullet Posted: 17/Oct/2010 at 11:32pm
Recent happenings at SKS Microfinance seems to have escaped the attention of Teddies.

I am still holding SKS Micro @ 935 from its IPO.

What to do in view of recent developments?

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Quote Kabootar Replybullet Posted: 17/Oct/2010 at 1:47am
i say sks is a hold. the sector as a whole is doing more good than harm, so the government wont destroy the companies... obviously good regulation is welcome.
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