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psimajin
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 Posted: 26/Apr/2007 at 5:28pm |
Co. is dependent too much upon inorganic route for growth.Acquisition are never cheap.
(I hold small qnty of opto)
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monu_duggad
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 Posted: 26/Apr/2007 at 5:53pm |
as long as inorganic route is eps accretive,synergies are visible and economic cost of capital is favorable...i dont see why acquisition shud be a bad idea....plus it has delivered the goods ....
lets keep our fingers crossed
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deepinsight
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 Posted: 26/Apr/2007 at 7:20pm |
Originally posted by Vivek Sukhani
It has made 2 new acquisitions again.....this company is an illustration for wealth-creation.....look at their execution.....absolutely delightful......you never have to bother about their FY09E or FY10E and stuff like that......the analysts will go on making all sort of forecasts and they will keep on beating them with elan...hope deepinsight is listening |
Vivekji: I agree with you on the management’s great execution. I am however a great believer in fundamental work – and that encompasses management and business dynamics.
If I did not like the business they are in or the fundamentals of the business were not strong e.g. getting rapidly commoditized or getting competitive or margins falling because of fundamental reasons I would seriously evaluate selling or exiting the business. i.e. my thinking of investing is more like an owner of a good business. As Mr.Buffett has said when a bad industry meets a good management – the reputation of the industry remains intact. ;)
Getting back to Opto Circuit:
The fundamentals of the business are great. The stents and catheter business requires huge R&D efforts, accreditations requires years of work and money (think moat). They have smartly acquired companies and smart people giving them a huge competitive edge. The addressable market for Opto Circuit is reaching multiple of USD billions.
The management has been astute in not overpaying for investments and have demonstrated ability to make their acquisitions work. This move to acquire manufacturing capacity in India through these company greatly improves time to market, creates capacity, brings in manufacturing competence and will complement their manufacturing capacity/capability of the French catheter company that they should close this month.
As you can see I am a big “fundamental” friend of Opto Circuit.
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deepinsight
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 Posted: 26/Apr/2007 at 7:24pm |
Originally posted by vnstks
This stock has also been recommended by Ramesh Damani in his chats at rates of around 150 or so... |
True but he never had high conviction in OPto Circuit to make it his core holding. Think he gave a punt when the company was quite different 2 years back.
The company's charachter and potential completely changed after the acquisition of Eurocor (stent business) in 2005.
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deepinsight
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 Posted: 26/Apr/2007 at 7:26pm |
Originally posted by psimajin
Co. is dependent too much upon inorganic route for growth.Acquisition are never cheap.
(I hold small qnty of opto) |
I would agree that most acquisitions are difficult to make work. However the management of Opto Cicruit have demonstarted ability to buy right and make acquisitions work to the shareholder's advantage.
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Vivek Sukhani
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 Posted: 26/Apr/2007 at 10:58pm |
Deepinsight, I would seriously like to see opto march past 342-345 areas in a quick time now.....from there on I expect the march may sppeden up. Waise bhi, as the year has closed.....am waiting for the announcement of the date of the result.... thats a sufficient trigger for opto
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deepinsight
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 Posted: 28/Apr/2007 at 12:37pm |
Opto Circuits to Buy Two Medical Equipment Makershttp://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/555739
MUMBAI (Reuters) Apr 26 - Opto Circuits (India) Ltd. has agreed to buy two medical equipment firms in India for an undisclosed sum to widen its product offerings, a top official said on Thursday.
The companies -- Devon Innovations Pvt. Ltd. and Ormed Medical Technology Ltd. -- make products such as catheters and dilator sets used in urology, gastroenterology and orthopaedics, Opto said in a statement.
"We got these companies very cheap," Chairman and Managing Director Vinod Ramnani said over the telephone. He said he couldn't give the deal value, but that it was "not a huge sum."
"These are profit making companies and have good potential to grow," he said. "They have a good product line which have CE approvals that will enable exports to Europe." CE is a European marking indicating conformity to health and safety norms.
Bangalore-based Opto Circuits makes drug-eluting stents for coronary applications, probes and patient monitoring systems.
Opto Circuits, which last year acquired Germany's Eurocor GmbH, was still in talks for the acquisition of a European medical equipment company, he said.
Ramnani had earlier said the company would spend 720 million rupees to acquire the firm.
Shares in the company were trading 2.1 percent higher at 336.90 rupees in the Mumbai market.
Edited by deepinsight - 28/Apr/2007 at 12:40pm
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Vivek Sukhani
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 Posted: 28/Apr/2007 at 9:23am |
Am quite surprised that this stock has got just 2 devotees on this forum....I think this stock is not getting its due share of recognition.....its such a wonderful mix of growth and value.......its a matter of real wonder why so very few brokerages track this beauty called opto circuits.... frankly speaking am a great devotee of this stock.... those who invested in 100 shares in the FPO entailing an investment of 27000 are sitting on 66000 in a span of a year or so......old investors, are in a different league altogether....
regards,
Vivek
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