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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 18/Jul/2007 at 4:16pm
Now in this case the assets are gone


The assumption is that revenues accrued via land sale would go into purchasing new land at a cheaper rate. Something akin to treasury operations of ICICI Bank or Reliance Capital - buying stocks at lower rates and selling at higher rates. It will be wasteful only if DLF sits on cash or gives the money away as dividends.

If I have to depend on NAV model, I will have to depend only brokerage reports, which I don't want to.

My other plan is to read up on some of the reports created by real estate consultancy firms on land appreciation rates in areas like Gurgaon. If DLF has a NAV of Rs. 600 in July 2007, and if land prices have appreciated by 30% in one year, then buy DLF if the stock price is below Rs. 780. Does it sound logical enough?
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 18/Jul/2007 at 4:42pm
 If DLF has a NAV of Rs. 600 in July 2007, and if land prices have appreciated by 30% in one year, then buy DLF if the stock price is below Rs. 780. Does it sound logical enough?
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Absolutely, But the problem is that appreciation in land prices will always be below the returns that businesses can generate. That is because people pay EMI etc from the cash that they generate by working for business. If land prices rise faster then busineses will theoratically all bsuinesses should be closed and money invested in buying land. - Just a perspective!
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Quote tyler_durden Replybullet Posted: 18/Jul/2007 at 5:17pm
DLF has tied up with langruk.. my college friend .. a civil engineer is working with DLF.. he is working for MALL of india project in gurgaon...(the largest mall in asia) ... he tells me that DLF has grand plans .. but he gave a great insight to me:

dont invest in dlf rather invest in JK cement ... jk supplies cement to major builders in a big way....

jk cement has got good financials but i am afraid because of cyclical nature of business...

basant ji wat wud u prefer in such a case? dlf or JK?? IS it like asking wat wud u prefer maruti or asahi ?

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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 18/Jul/2007 at 6:38pm
Personally I prefer none. But companies supplying predominently to single customers could be dangerous. Also what stops DLF from buying ACC cement? Is there any agreement and if so that agreement would not be at market price but at a discount. Between the two DLF is better.

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Quote tyler_durden Replybullet Posted: 18/Jul/2007 at 6:39pm
JK is not only supplying to DLF but also to unitech, ansal's and parsvnath etc. ...
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Quote CHINKI Replybullet Posted: 18/Jul/2007 at 6:56pm
DLF BAGS RS 6,000CR DDA CONTRACT

MUMBAI, JULY 18: Real estate developer DLF Ltd on Wednesday said it has secured a Rs 6,000 crore contract from Delhi Development Authority (DDA) for constructing an international convention centre in Dwarka.

Located close to Indira Gandhi International Airport in one of the fastest growing sub-cities of the national capital, the centre would be designed, developed and operated by DLF, the company said in a communique to the Bombay Stock Exchange (BSE).

The centre would be designed as per international norms, and would be comparable to Singapore's Suntec Convention Centre, it said.

The main convention hall of the centre, proposed to be set up on nearly two million sq ft area of Rs 900 crore value, would be able to accommodate 12,000 delegates with telescopic seating arrangements. The hall would be capable of partitioned in multiple smaller halls.

The convention centre would consist of 25 meeting rooms with total seating capacity of over 2,000 delegates and two exhibition halls of 5,000 sq mt.

However, the hotel complex would comprise of 835 rooms of different categories. The complex would be constructed in an area of 6.5 lakh sq ft area.

There would also be a commercial complex in the centre, which would have food and beverages facilities, shopping malls, multiplexes, offices and ancillary support units.

The socio-cultural and community facilities would accommodate premium boarding and lodging complex for international students and diplomats, indoor and outdoor sports facilities, and global art and craft village.

SOURCE: FE

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Quote tyler_durden Replybullet Posted: 18/Jul/2007 at 8:21pm
means more cement from jk...Wink
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Quote vivekkumar_in Replybullet Posted: 18/Jul/2007 at 9:47pm
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 If DLF has a NAV of Rs. 600 in July 2007, and if land prices have appreciated by 30% in one year, then buy DLF if the stock price is below Rs. 780. Does it sound logical enough?
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Absolutely, But the problem is that appreciation in land prices will always be below the returns that businesses can generate. That is because people pay EMI etc from the cash that they generate by working for business. If land prices rise faster then busineses will theoratically all bsuinesses should be closed and money invested in buying land. - Just a perspective!


Very good perspective Basant ji !

For all general purposes it applies when one thinks between investment in land against investment in a good company.


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