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Quote kunz1981 Replybullet Posted: 16/Nov/2009 at 5:44pm
Originally posted by SaneCounsel

Heidelberg deserves attention :
 
Market cap of 636 crore ( 836 crore less 200 crore cash ) which can be covered in 3 to 4 years PAT .Capacity going up from 1.8 to 4.7 mtpa .
At 75$ per tonne the replacement  cost is  1750 + crore at 4.7 mtpa capacity which means Rs.77 per share .
 
a) Management pedigree : Top 3 in the world - German Mnc .They hold 69% and I expect they would want to delist . If indeed they wish to delist the earlier they attempt to do so the better for them . This is one trigger.
 
b) Accounting year is Jan to Dec . For year 2009 expect eps of 8.Industry pe is above 8 whereas a mid cap mnc cement stock that has just announced intention to double capacity by 100% deserves a higher pe in my view and definitely not sub 5 pe .
 
c) Expect dividend to be declared for this year - Jan-Dec 2009 period as the company would have wiped off all accumulated debts .If they declare a dividend of Rs.2 per 10 Re Share the yield at current prices would be 5% tax free ! Rerating would also happen .
 
d) Book value expected to cross Rs.30 by Dec 2009 - Cash per share expected to be near Rs.15 levels .
 
e) Heidelberg can also be a surprise aggresor in the consolidation of the cement sector .
 
f) Zero debt company - Clean financials . Great debtor days and also capacity utilisation position.Good markets essentially the lucrative central indian belt . Smart management including ex Ambit's Ashish Guha and 3 distinguished germans on the board - all career heidelbergers - Dr.Bernd Scheifele,Dr Lorenz Nager and Dr Albert Scheuer.
 
Gloabally Richard Perry the reclusive but successful hedge fund manager recently recommended Heidelberg with the brief comment " The price of rock has never gone down " .  
 
My view is to consider buying at these levels for substantial appreciation to the believer . This company offers not just a sector play but also a play on a huge ( and efficiently silent ) turnaround story , an open offer / delisting play and a dividend rerating play .
 
@SaneCounsel - Agree with you that lot of Mid cap Cement players are quoting at low multiples.
 
Does anyone have data on last 10 yrs avg annual cement prices and corresponding capacity utilisation levels? Without knowing where we currently stand in the cycle it is difficult to say whether these companies are cheap or no. Great if someone can share that data
 
Also, with regards Heidelberg, their current capacity is 3m MT in total (See latest Annual Report) and not 1.8m
 
Last year's high PAT is because of tax loss carry fwds. Last quarter's EPS is close to 1.1 I think with full tax provision. When we strip off other income the EPS is Re1. Annualizing that gives an EPS of Rs.4 and and stripping off net cash of approx. Rs.300 crores, a PE of around 6x.
 
Let me know if I miss something.


Edited by kunz1981 - 16/Nov/2009 at 5:45pm
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Quote Investor7 Replybullet Posted: 17/Nov/2009 at 3:16pm
How about India Cements? At CMP of 100 it looks better on most of the parameters (PE, EV/tonne). It is an established player in South India and also spreading its wings in Western India. Like Graham I prefer large unpopular companies
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Quote hit2710 Replybullet Posted: 17/Nov/2009 at 8:40pm
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How about India Cements? At CMP of 100 it looks better on most of the parameters (PE, EV/tonne). It is an established player in South India and also spreading its wings in Western India. Like Graham I prefer large unpopular companies


You can also look at JK Lakshmi cements and Mangalam Cements. But the market is rating the sector based on the downturn expected in prices of cement in view of increasing capacity expected to come up. I think it is better to let the bad news factored in before aggressive buying.
Stockmarket is a weird place. For every person who buys a stock there is a person who sells it and both think they are very smart.
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Quote Crimsonarcher Replybullet Posted: 17/Nov/2009 at 9:33am
Exactly...commodity sectors are cyclical and must be played at the beginning of a cycle and not the end.
2002-3 would be a great time to get into Cement, Iron Ore, Steel, Shipping etc because they were at the beginning of their cycle. Now with additional capacity coming in or already in, they are at the end of their cycle. So unless again there is a demand supply gap that would expand with time, these stocks will not be re-rated and won't be great investments. This is different from say agri commodities like sugar, where the cycle can happen every year because of crop shortages.
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Quote prashantmohta Replybullet Posted: 18/Nov/2009 at 4:58pm
Koi shree cement me interested hai??????
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Quote Mohan Replybullet Posted: 18/Nov/2009 at 12:14pm
Originally posted by prashantmohta

 
Koi shree cement me interested hai??????
 
 
To Sell ? or Buy ?
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Quote genieinvestor Replybullet Posted: 18/Nov/2009 at 11:44am
Agreed that more capacities are going to come up in the future- which explains the rerating for cement stocks.

But the infra growth story in India still holds true. The downturn caused a temporary break, but with the government supporting the infra story, the related sectors like cement are not a totally gone case.

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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 18/Nov/2009 at 11:52am
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