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India_Bull
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 Posted: 18/Mar/2008 at 7:26pm |
Considering the current valuations, HDFC bank should also come down, as it still has to digest the merger in the balance sheet, so next few bad quarters are not priced in the HDFC Bank yet, may be we can get this golden stock at more attractive prices. (If I consider CITI selling stakes in India holding to recoup losses elsewhere then one gets scared about thinking the possible price of HDFCBank !!)
P.S- My personal opinion, I am not an expert
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prashantmohta
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 Posted: 18/Mar/2008 at 7:30pm |
does anyone remember the itc case few years back when stock tanked and then recoverd.i would like somebody to co-relate same with the hdfc and hdfc bank here.
good stocks always recover.
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prashantmohta
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 Posted: 18/Mar/2008 at 7:51pm |
NEW YORK: World's newly crowned richest person Warren Buffett may have some lessons for other billionaires and CEOs of the world.
Buffett, CEO and Chairman at Berkshire Hathaway, does not use office car, has neither taken a salary hike for 25 years nor desires any in future, pays back the company for minor items such as phone calls, postage and favour from office personnel that are personal in nature, does not fly in company jet for personal visits and gives over four-times bigger pay package to his Chief Financial Officer.
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gopal
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 Posted: 18/Mar/2008 at 8:04pm |
TEDies / seniors
Will you mention some / few stocks & the percentage that they have fallen ...... further it would be best if these stocks have no connection with USD and are based on strong India local sales or business.
this will benefit us all .......
At same time also do mention sectors / stocks to avoid or to be very cautios in .....
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Women are like the stock market Coz they're irrational n can bankrupt u if u're not careful
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nitin_jagtap
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 Posted: 18/Mar/2008 at 8:44pm |
P/E ratio of BSE scrips dips to 17.24 |
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BS Research / Mumbai March 18, 2008 |
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The market-wide weighted price to earnings (P/E) multiple, which soared to an unsustainable level of over 28.1 when the Sensex hit its all-time high of 21,282 on January 8, has come down to 19.19, with the benchmark index hovering around 15k levels. |
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The weighted P/E of the BSE stocks has also declined from 27.4 to 17.24. This is largely on account of the 30 per cent plus correction in the market prices between January 8 and on Monday.
MELTDOWN Sensex stocks with high P/E |
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Price to earnings (P/E) |
Jan-08 |
Mar-17 |
Larsen & Toubro |
71.54 |
41.42 |
Reliance Comm |
53.78 |
36.18 |
BHEL |
43.69 |
30.33 |
HDFC Bank |
45.76 |
30.00 |
HDFC |
45.13 |
28.44 |
Reliance Energy |
65.91 |
27.87 |
Hind Unilever |
28.75 |
26.23 |
Bharti Airtel |
34.48 |
24.56 |
ITC |
29.75 |
23.07 |
Reliance Ind |
34.03 |
22.92 | |
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In simple terms, an investor who was willing to pay Rs 28 for a rupee earned per share on January 8 is now willing to pay only Rs 19 for the same stock. |
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This has happened largely due to the global meltdown following the sub-prime crisis and projected slowdown in the US economy in the first two quarters of CY08. |
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The current weighted P/E multiple has been compiled by taking into account the net profits of 2,060 companies for the trailing 12 months (TTM) ended December 2007. |
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The P/E as on January 8 was based on the TTM net profit ended September 2007. The weighted P/E is the total market capitalisation of 2,060 companies divided by their net profit in the latest TTM period. |
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If one expects the corporate profits to grow by 15-20 per cent in FY09, the Sensex’s forward P/E at the current value is 17-17.8 times and the market wide P/E is 15.5-16 times. |
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The P/E of A group stocks has fallen from 28.3 to 19, the stocks of B group and S group have reacted sharply to the market meltdown with the P/E of these groups plunging from 23.6 times on January 8 to the current 15. |
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While the marketwise P/E multiples have come down, as many as 650 stocks are trading above their average P/Es. The P/Es for 1,463 stocks have been relatively cheaper, with multiples of 10 and below. |
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Among the Sensex stocks, Larsen & Toubro is trading at a P/E of 41.4 (down from 71 on January 8). Reliance Communication is not going cheap either, as it is trading at a P/E of 36.2 times. |
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Though HDFC, HDFC Bank, DLF, BHEL and Reliance Energy have declined by 25-50 per cent from their January 8 highs, they are still trading at P/E multiples over 25-30 times. |
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Warm REgards
Nitin Jagtap
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basant
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 Posted: 18/Mar/2008 at 9:09pm |
Originally posted by BubbleVision
I was really hoping that this kind of thread would be called "Investing in a bear market".
If that was the case, I would have immediately posted "Why invest in a bear market in first place". Why not go short????
ROFL
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I am not sure how many bear markets you have seen but I have made my biggest money buying stocks when peole were screaming at each other to get out of the market.
And yes, I am not a trader who would turn his hat at every trend.
Edited by basant - 18/Mar/2008 at 10:31pm
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omshivaya
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 Posted: 18/Mar/2008 at 9:27pm |
After reading various intelligent posts today, I just remembered an old wise saying just out of the blue(aise hee)
"A person's true character(his real essence which he simply cannot hide), comes out only when he is in power and not when he is in poverty". So, give a man power...make him feel more powerful than you are, and you shall see his true character in full form."
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The most important quality for an investor is temperament,not intellect.A temperament that neither derives great pleasure from being with the crowd nor against it
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gopal
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 Posted: 18/Mar/2008 at 9:39pm |
Basant jee & Devesh bhai,
In this mkt I would like your feedback for Reliance capital ......
Is this company ok for investing more at todays price with a 6 months to 1 yr out look ...... since long outlooks are risky now
or was this just anoth ADAG balloon that should be exchanged with another fundamentally sound company .......
I exited all other balloon stocks of adag bhai in time but I still have this one with purchase prices of Rs1827/-
Further the only other banking stock I am left with is Axis bank with purchase price of Rs977/- is this good price for axis or should this be changed for some other better stock to capitalize from this bearish phase ..
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