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Quote BubbleVision Replybullet Posted: 07/Apr/2007 at 7:37pm

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NELCO -

 
20-March-1992 -- Rs 93.00
04-Apr-2007 --     Rs  83.00
 
Long Live holding forever!!!!

 
This is shocking. I was speaking from what I recollect.Companies which could do nothing for 15 years would take more then an operator to get going. I wish people applied more logic and less conviction (stubborness).

 
This stable price performance was characterised by the stock going to Sub 10 four times.
 
Kulman ...Team M-TV wants his song.
 
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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 07/Apr/2007 at 10:27pm
One may have a look at Dynamatic Technologies, a Bangalore based company.
 
Dynamatic Technologies Limited is the largest producer of Hydraulic Gear Pumps in Asia and one of the top five worldwide. With state-of-the-art manufacturing facilities, and incorporation of the latest process technologies DTL has diversified into a number of related areas like Aerospace and the Automotive Components sector, thus creating a unique, vertically integrated manufacturing structure.
 
EPS FY06: Rs. 19.42
CMP: Rs. 1170
EPS 9months FY07: Rs. 13.90
 
I request for further number analysis by experts....
 
 
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 07/Apr/2007 at 10:42pm
Though I just had a very quick glance on the company's financials the major boast to earnings has come from a steady increase in other income which has grown from almost 34 lacs in 2002 to Rs 4.16 crores in 2006. Once you eliminate the effect of other income the growth does not look that compelling. That is why the operating margin has not expanded as much as the net profit margin.
 
Also the company seems to be highly leveraged and in the rising interest rate scenario leverage could be a problem.
  
But all this could be misleading if the company's business model seems to be changing because the financials reflect the past whereas the stock markets dioscount the future!!!
 
 


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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 07/Apr/2007 at 10:59pm
Thanks for the quick review. I do not own this share but have been keeping track of news/developments.
 
 
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Quote kanagala Replybullet Posted: 08/Apr/2007 at 10:57pm
Sharekhan recommended this at 114 and recommended to sell at 84.

This is the reason for sell recommendation:-

Nelco''s recent performance has been much below our expectations due to the delay in the orders from the Indian armed forces and the little progress in the proposed additional development at its existing property in Mumbai.

The long-term re-rating triggers, though delayed and uncertain, were still intact at that time. We were hopeful that an important re-rating trigger (such as a move to strengthen its relations with the key foreign collaborator like Thales through a joint venture or the sale of a strategic stake) would eventually play out. The French major Thales is aggressively looking at expanding its footprint in India with a focus on catering to the needs of the Indian defence and security forces. And Nelco could have been an ideal partner given its strong parentage with an established presence as a supplier to the Indian armed forces. 

However, the recent announcement of a joint venture between Rolta India and Thales would considerably limit the extent of the latter''s engagement with Nelco. Though the joint venture would initially focus on the development of information systems and solutions, Rolta''s management indicated that the relationship could grow and also encompass implementation, customisation and integration of Thales'' products (and solutions) in India. 

In the absence of any meaningful re-rating triggers, we advise booking out of the stock. We had recommended the stock on January 31, 2006 at the price of Rs144.


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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 08/Apr/2007 at 11:51pm
The dreaded investing words are in "red"
 
The long-term re-rating triggers, though delayed and uncertain, were still intact at that time. We were hopeful ..........
 
Generally I follow this principle
 
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Quote xbox Replybullet Posted: 08/Apr/2007 at 5:31am
I am aware of another Defense stock. It is Zen tech. Like Marksans pharma, this was also darling of FIIs. Our own RD is/was bullish on this. Zen has fallen alot ever since May crash. Now in-people are talking about excellent dividend yield. Once I picked small quantity but sold it quite quickly.
Some of Major auto giants are stepping into defense sector. Prominent names are Tata motors, M&M.
In my personal opinion, it is very challenging sector so best avoidable.
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Quote kanagala Replybullet Posted: 08/Apr/2007 at 7:34am
Hi Vipul,
Why did FII's deserted Marksans Pharma. It is trading at 50.  It came down from 250. Do you know any foul play by management? This is also recommended by sharekhan when it was around 250.  They stopped updating on this. Sorry for writing this here.
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