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Quote Vamsee Replybullet Posted: 27/May/2010 at 7:52pm
gary24,

Even if we assume that oil has peaked doesn't mean that golden days of "Alt energy" are ahead of us.

What if we tap into http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane_clathrate ?
or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shale_gas ?
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Quote gary24 Replybullet Posted: 27/May/2010 at 10:48am
Agree and disagree. While you're right that there are several other sources like Shale gas and to be honest I don't have estimates of their total potential. However, you can be almost certain that NO other conventional source - with possible exception of north pole oil - can meet our increasing energy needs.

This results in simple demand supply dynamics which would enable alternative sources that are currently too costly to compete with oil to be cost competitive. e.g. wind energy is around 11 - 12 Rs /unit and Solar comes to at least 18 - 20 Rs / unit. With increased economies of scale, innovation etc. these modes can become mainstream. For example, China has a stated policy (ref: copenhegan summit) to reduce their coal based energy production by as much as 40% in next 20 years. China is building wind farms like there's no tomorrow and players like Suzlon are well positioned to tap this market.

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Quote karn Replybullet Posted: 28/May/2010 at 12:09pm
i think it would not be oil running out. it would be about decrease in consumption.
interested one can see more on this argument here:

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/amory_lovins_on_winning_the_oil_endgame.html

and

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/richard_sears_planning_for_the_end_of_oil.html

and

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/rob_hopkins_transition_to_a_world_without_oil.html

and

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/juan_enriquez_wants_to_grow_energy.html

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Quote gary24 Replybullet Posted: 30/May/2010 at 1:02pm
And pray how that decrease in consumption be achieved while the erstwhile third world is buying cars like there's no tomorrow and per capita energy consumption in countries like India are growing at 10-15%?

Just a little piece of trivia for you - Delhi needed around 60 MW of electricity in 1950s that increased to around 200 MW by 1965 ... Last week's Delhi's peak requirement was 4700 MW.
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Quote gary24 Replybullet Posted: 04/Jul/2010 at 9:39am
There is raging debate in US after the gulf coast oil spill on whether Obama should come up with a new legislation that puts alternative energy on fast lane (tax breaks, govt incentives to manufacturers etc.). There is growing thinking in US that China is marching ahead in this area which would clearly decide who wins in 2nd half of 21st Century.
 
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Quote om2112 Replybullet Posted: 20/Mar/2011 at 12:28pm
       In the Light of anti-nuclear opinion,huge National solar mission project we must rejuvenate this topic.
       India is a huge energy deficit country.Thermal power is contributing some 75 per of power.Now a days there is lot of uncertainty in the form of coal availability and linkages,land acquisition problems,people agitationshttp://www.thehindu.com/news/states/tamil-nadu/article435466.ece?service=mobile
          http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?266538
                  Hydro power projects are also facing similar problems.In the scenario of Japan nuclear crisis Nuclear energy projects may be shelved.If govt go ahead firmly Local peoples may agitate heavily.
                   Eventually this will mean a bonanza for Alternate energy.So from five year perspective it make sense for us to invest in companies        

A.Alternative energy producers(Huge capital+Low ROE+high depr benefits)
b.Technology providers
C.Turn key service providers.
                    In the Scenario of huge opportunity in the form of National solar mission i am requesting all the members to put your valuable inputs.
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Quote barla Replybullet Posted: 20/Mar/2011 at 4:39pm

for alternative energy except for suzlon there is no listed company really. Of course we can bet on companies like L& T, hoping that they will be able to supply the plant for the alternative energy companies.

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Quote om2112 Replybullet Posted: 21/Mar/2011 at 3:49pm
                       Great news for Indian pv manufacturers
            
Govt recently banned the import of equipment for projects under the National Solar Mission.The regulation mandates that the modules for a solar power plant should be manufactured in India.The Indian solar energy market, at 500 MW, is expected to reach 800 MW by 2011.The government plans to have an installed capacity of 1 GW by 2011 and 20 GW by 2020. Secondly, there will be rethinking all over the world after the Japan crisis. Many countries plan to have a 20-25% of their capacity from renewable energy.
              So,there is huge opportunity for photo voltaic manufacturers and other equipment manufacturers (also for us as investorsWink).I think Moserbaer is the largest in India.Other companies are BHEL,TATABpSOLAR,XL telecom, PAEL, WEB SOL ENERGY etc.
              Key is to find a company having technology and good balance sheet.I am inviting your valuable feedback.
        
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