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    Posted: 27/Sep/2007 at 11:45am

Maestros Mediline Systems Ltd is a very interesting stock in the Medical equipment space.

 

Their product range encompasses Cardiology ( ECG recorders, Spirometers , Stress test systems)  Monitoring (Pulse Oximeter, Pulmonary Function Analyzer) Gynacelogy( Physiological Monitors, Fetal Monitors ). 

 

 Complete details are available on this link:

 

http://www.medi-line.com/products_ECG.htm

 

Maestros has been promoted by Dr Nitin Paranjpe ( MD ) and Dr.KK Menon ( PhD in Macro economics & Marketing from London university )

 

Equity : 4.55 cr

Debt : 10 cr

Market price : Rs.30

m/cap : 13.65 cr

 

financials for year ended march 31,07:

 

revenue: 25.9 cr

operating profit: 2.87 cr

depreciation: 1.76 cr

interest : 0.76 cr

tax : 0.16 cr

np: 0.56 cr

 

financials for june qtr:

 

revenue :9.4 cr ( 120% growth yoy)

operating profit: 1.15 cr  ( 173 % growth yoy )

tax : 0.12 cr

np : 0.31 cr ( loss to profit)

 

the huge growth is on a small base and so one should not read too much into it.

 

The medical equipment products are all developed inhouse & I spoke with a few doctors who said they were of a very good quality & priced lower to competitors like Opto, BPL medical.

 

The medical equipment division has shown more than 160% growth in the june qtr and should maintain excellent growth going ahead too.

 

The high depreciation is due to a furnished  60,000 sq feet building in Millenium business park which Maestro has rented out to Capgemnini for an annual rent of around 4.5 cr.

 

Maestro also has a IT division which provides business solutions to  Indian corporates.

Maestro’s medical equipment products are all telemedicince enabled.

It is setting up a new facility in Navi Mumbai which will be operational in the next 2 months in a concept called Unbound Healthcare, which basically means remote monitoring of patients who have small gadgets attached to their bodies which collect medical related informtion like Temperature Fluctuations, Blood Pressure, etc. and send them over to the required monitoring personnel for diagnosis. This also acts as a cost saving operation as there are no costs involved in setting up appointments and conducting tests).

It must be noted that Unbound Healthcare or Telemedicine is not a technology but an application.

 

If this project is successful, Maestros will be present in the entire Telemedicine value chain comprising of  products, telemedicine software & support centre .

 

I feel the at the current m/cap , there is negligible risk but huge reward possibilities.

 

 

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Quote kumarrvq Replybullet Posted: 28/Sep/2007 at 1:26pm

Anything unique about "Maestros...", they are in medical equip since 1992 (i.e. 15 years) still they are 13Cr company with 10Cr debt (Actaully just 3Cr company).

Difficult to convince myself if something can't be done in 15years is it possible that it will happne in next couple of years, may be if it is Unitech type of company!!!!
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Quote jstk Replybullet Posted: 06/Feb/2008 at 10:35am
Net profit of Maestros Mediline Systems rose 470.00% to Rs 0.57 crore in the quarter ended December 2007 as against Rs 0.10 crore during the previous quarter ended December 2006. Sales rose 91.75% to Rs 9.07 crore in the quarter ended December 2007 as against Rs 4.73 crore during the previous quarter ended December 2006. The Medical as well the Electronic OEM divison have shown very good growth.
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Quote praveen Replybullet Posted: 19/May/2008 at 1:17pm

My biggest concern regarding Microcaps have always been what if this company is fraud. Did a bit of secondary research and looks like this one is okay on that front.

Just one of the articles I found
 

A doctor’s prescription for IT users

Dr Nitin Paranjape is the only Indian among 15 global professionals who have received the Microsoft Most Valued Professional for 2005 award. He reveals to Shivani Shinde why he switched over from gynaecology to IT.

Dr Nitin Paranjape

We all come across people who have ventured into a profession which has nothing to do with their educational background. For instance, an Arts graduate writing for a science magazine or vice versa or an engineer getting a management degree, etc. But there are very few who take the risk of shifting from an established profession to a field where they have no vocational backup of the same and yet manage to gain the respect from their peers. One such person is Dr Nitin Paranjape who after finishing his MD in gynaecology pursued a career in IT due to his passion for learning new technologies and leveraging this knowledge to benefit business. He has proved to be a successful businessman, as the Chairman and Managing Director of Maestros Mediline Systems. Maestros is one of the most preferred partner of Microsoft in India and a leader in providing IT services.

His plunge into the field of technology is best described by the doctor himself as a profession based on hobby. His interest in technology started with the games that he played during his student days in medical college. “While I was studying I tried to understand how those games were written. I tried to learn the language and realised that apart from playing games something useful can also be done and ended up writing software which would help in patient management, reduce crowd in OPD, getting results of tests faster, etc.” says Paranjape. This happened in 1985-86.

While Paranjape was completing his studies at Nair Hospital he started using the software that he had developed. When others came to know about it they showed a keen interest. This became his entry point into IT. This was also the time when PCs were just entering India and thus were expensive. Before he could graduate he had already worked with many of his colleagues, the Unicef, some NGOs, the municipal corporation to name a few. “Thus, by the time I finished my education, I had a sizable number of customers in my hand and I had orders too. I thought why not try this out, if this doesn’t work then I can always go back to my medical practice,” explains Paranjape.

The decision to shift base to IT was equally supported by his wife and family. “I was already a good doctor before I finished MD and had a good number of clients. But my family realised that after putting many hours a day of work in medicine, I was still spending another eight hours of work in IT. They allowed me to go ahead.” The deal though with the family was that he would be allowed to test waters for a year and if not successful go back to the medical field. Things did not materialise as was anticipated but there were no losses either. The year’s deadline was extended and the rest is history.

Till I was interacting with people from the medical field it was fine, but people in the IT industry wondered what was a doctor doing in their field

On being a self-learner he says, “I feel that learning itself has become a core part of my business. The difference between medicine and IT is that things in medicine do not change. The old does not get phased out that fast whereas in IT whatever comes in eventually gets phased out in some time,” he adds.

Despite the success, he has had his share of challenges too. Initially, he had to convince everyone about his credentials.

“Till I was interacting with people from the medical field it was fine but people in the IT industry wondered what was a doctor doing in their field,” says Paranjape. Consequently, he later stopped using the doctor’s initial before his name.

The other problem that he faced was his lack of business instincts. He explains, “In medicine you are never taught to be a businessman. Almost nine years of your life are dedicated in learning. By that time your non-medical friends are already established and you are nowhere. Besides, if you notice all doctors are typically trained to run a one man show. They do not have any concept of team-work, no corporatisation or customer management or money management sense.”

To ensure that his company Maestros Mediline Systems runs excellently, Paranjape takes care of the technology part of his company, while his brother-in-law manages the business part.

Another factor that got him the desired acceptance in the field was his habit of writing on various new technologies and how one could improve office productivity. He has to his credit more than 700 articles published in various IT magazines and other publications.

Paranjape started in 1991 with medical software as the focus area and continued in the same segment for the next two years.

In 1994, he got into medical electronics and in the IT services. “At that time we realised that medical software skills should not be the only thing that we should deal in. If we had to be ahead of the time, we would have to venture in areas that required software development. And thus we went into corporate software development,” adds Paranjape.

He recently got the Microsoft Most Valued Professional for 2005 award and is the only Indian among the 15 global professionals with this certification. “Award is a recognition, an acknowledgement of what one does,” remarks Parnajape. What matters to him is the reaction that he gets in his sessions.

“There have been instances when at the end of the sessions people have cried. They realise the opportunities that they have lost and the potential that they see after the sessions,” says Paranjape.

From a doctor to a techie, ask him about his inspiration and pat comes the reply, “It’s something like an amplifier effect. I learn something once and can invite others to learn the same without extra cost.” Though his greatest achievement, he feels, would be when his thinking (which he plans to pen down) becomes as indispensable as The Bible or the Geeta.

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Quote msjala Replybullet Posted: 10/Sep/2008 at 10:09pm
Please excuse me, If the question is on wrong group. Please move it to relevant part of the forum.

Whenever I try to buy micro-caps thru online trading [5paisa.com], I keep getting the reply "It is not traded". BSE India site shows lots of Total Traded Quantity, however, I cannot buy it online.

Same goes to other scrips like IVP, Sanco.

These are not scrips like State Bank of Mysore, Industrial and Prudential Investment....

Are these traded only on floor of BSE, where non-Mumbaite's cannot go & buy each day !!

Can senior members help on this regard?
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Online trading platforms restreict trading in low liquidity scrips. I think the call and trade facility could be doing it for you.
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Quote jstk Replybullet Posted: 14/Sep/2008 at 10:55am

The Maestros board is meeting on 20th sept to explore possibility of doing a buy back.

 

i was a tad disapointed with the last Qtr results and had written to them for some clarifications. The replies from the company are herebelow. Any boarders interested in Maestros may find them of use:

 

1) Medical Embedded systems operating margins  in the last quarter are negative. Any particular reasons?

With reference to question No. 1

Margins for “Medical Systems” segment are negative on account of execution of some low margin govt. orders. This supplies has limited/lower value addition and are apart from Companies value added products.

[specifically executed to strengthen the Companies Installation base/dominance in various States]

[This supplies also carry future revenue potentials as and when their supports are due]

 

Also the procurement levels were slightly upwards, for execution of the orders in pipeline for subsequent quarters of fiscal 2008-09, The cumulative effect will get spillover in QI & QII.

2) IT standaolne operating margins in the last quarter seem to include some extraordinary income as profitability is higher than revenue. Request if you could pls throw light

With reference to query No. 2

 

Margins for IT are greater than revenues, as the other incomes are allocable to “IT” segments.  

3) Inspite of lease rentals in 07-08 improving to 4.37 cr from 3.27 cr in the previous year, profitability has been flat. I was also keen to understand major expenditure that we incur in this segemnt which seems to affect margins so severely

With reference to query No. 3

 

There are various cost associated with the properties, being the furnished property, maintenance cost, operational cost, further the same is acquired on financial arrangements and the deprecation which has major impact on its revenue.

 

Inspite of improvement in lease rentals, margins are disproportionate to revenue; In compare to current year the commitment towards finance cost was much lesser in previous year, In the year 2008-09 improvements in margins are expected, as finance charges will get reduce to great extent.

4) Have we incorporated a new subsidiary or acquired an existing business from a group company. Surprsingly it seems to be in the IT space where Maestros seemed to have been pruning its exposure over the last few years.I would be very thankful if you could pls throw a little light on the subsisdiary and plans etc if any.

 

With reference to question No. 4

Our Company has incorporated the wholly owned subsidiary Company in free Trade Zone, Sharjah. The new subsidiary has been set up to tap the opportunities available in middle east markets and African continent. The subsidiary is engaged in providing IT and IT enabled services and has competencies like advance infrastructure solutions, business process and integration solutions, data management solutions etc. and specialization like active directory, database management, exchange migration and deployment, identity and secure access etc.

5) What is your view on the  business environment for the Medical embedded business and Electronics business.

6) What are our plans for the Infrastructure/IT businesses.

 

With reference to question No. 5 & 6

 

Company wants to explore the opportunities available in Infrastructure segment and in Information Technology both this vertical posses tremendous scope, further the Company is also trying to expand by exploring the opportunities available in other geographical areas.

 

In case of any further clarification, please do get back to us.

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Quote praveen Replybullet Posted: 14/Sep/2008 at 11:02am

Thanks for the updates.

I am not invested in this co. nor planning to do so, however I have developed an interest in the company's progress because of Dr Nitin Paranjape, the promoter. (someone who has left his doctor's practice to set up an IT firm)
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