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Quote manishdave Replybullet Posted: 17/Oct/2006 at 10:42pm
dubbing in other language probalbly doen't create natural effect.
Movies/Songs have great re-runs. TV-serials dont. Only few like Ramayan/Mahabharat/Chanakya would have successful re-run but family drama I really doubt.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 17/Oct/2006 at 10:01am
NDTV results were close to a disastor. I say close because the company should get some subscription revenue once CAS comes in
 
NDTV sales are significantly lower then the cuymmulative sale and profit of the Tv 18 network (includes all channels) but at current vauations the stock trades at  a market cap of more to TV 18. While TV 18.has a consistent record of increasing profits NDTV has been sinking ever since Rajdeep left. The 7.7 crore operating loss is significant. COmpanies can report losses due to depreciation, ESOP outgo but operating loss is just not taken.
 
The company has made a new 100% subsidiary called NDTV ventures that would get into mass media entertainment and lifestyle  and entertainment.The metronation concept will have 4 metro cannels with city based audiances.
 
NDTV Ventures should have a revenue of US $ 500 million in 5 years and they are the 4th largest players in the internet business in India.The company should benefit from the internet boom as would all other companies. They are planning to take their brand global.
 
Severe corrections could be used as buying opportunities but only for the very very long term investor.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 18/Oct/2006 at 11:51pm
One of the finest minds in Indian Stock Market history Radha Kishan Damani has added 775,000 shares of NDTV in the last quarter. This man has been openly talked about by Rakesh Jhunjhunwala as being his guru. He owns the D-Mart chain of stores in Mumbai.The mode of holding is routed through his investment company Bright Star Investments Pvt. Ltd. 
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Quote catchsudipto Replybullet Posted: 19/Oct/2006 at 12:13pm
Dear Sir,

By any change is Mr Radha Kishan Damani father of Mr Ramesh Damami?

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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 19/Oct/2006 at 12:27pm
No they are just related I presume but most of the investment ideas flow from one source.
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Quote achilles Replybullet Posted: 23/Oct/2006 at 7:07pm

TV Today - A Case of Ridiculous Valuations

 

TV Today reported its Q2 results today, while its topline stood at 41.86 crores, the PAT was 3.28 crores (operating profit was 9.79 crores). At first look, nothing great about the results. However, compare these results with NDTV, whose consolidated Q2 topline was 54.51 crores, operating loss 14.60 crores, and net loss 3.62 crores, TVTN's Q2 results were certainly impressive.

 

Present Business:

 

AajTak still retains the No. 1 position, and combined with Tez commands a 30% market share in the Hindi news genre. IBN-7 may be able to displace StarNews and NDTV India, but even their top guy admits it's impossible to displace AajTak from its No. 1 position. The English sibling Headlines Today which earlier lost its market share to CNN-IBN is finally doing well with the management taking positive steps on making it a stand-alone entity rather than a cheap carbon-copy of AajTak. Seems like Aroon Purie finally learnt that HT will do well only if the content differs from AajTak, and is akin to NDTV 24x7 or CNN-IBN. The market share of HT in the English news genre currently stands at 10%.

 

The regional channel for the Delhi NCR region, Dilli AajTak has captured a fair size of the market since its launch. Interestingly, the Delhi Ad market stands at 300-400 crores, of which Radio gets 80 crores. Given Aroon strong Delhi roots, this channel can command ever better revenues than its parent in the coming months.

 

Ad Pie:

 

Frederick Forsyth in his novel "The Fist of God" referred to the importance of human intelligence over electronic survelliance i.e. ground facts are more important than what analysts say. I've been watching AajTak, HT and Tez for years now, and never before have I seen so many ads on these channels, as from Oct. 1st '06.

 

On a YOY basis, HT easily gets over 150% ads on YoY basis, Tez gets over 2000% more ads, while AajTak is sitting pretty with 50% more ads. This may be due to the combined rate card for 3 channels for the advertisers, but this rate card commands a very decent premium. The earlier 10-second ad slot has been increased to over 20-30 from the previous 10-15. Furthermore, there are ad breaks after each 6-7 mins, from the earlier 13-14 mins.

 

Future:

 

Given the current ad status, TVTN should be able to report a Q3 topline of around 55 crores with a PAT of 12 crores, and a Q4 topline of over 60 crores with a PAT of 15 crores. Compared with its peers (TV18 and NDTV), TVTN holds the largest reserves in excess of 200 crores with virtually nil debts.

 

Unlike the earlier English venture HT, the management is seriously laying good groundwork for its Business Channel a tie-up with Bloomberg. Though TVTN's CS says the news is speculative of nature, there are reliable sources which confirm

this news (http://www.indiantelevision.com/headlines/y2k6/july/july315.htm).

 

Ridiculous Valuations:

 

4+1 channels (AajTak, HT, Tez, Dilli AajTak) + (soon-to-be-launched Business Channel), Reserves over 200 crores, Topline around 200 crores. For a niche media company which has 35-40 million weekly viewers and was voted the most trusted and most important news source of India by BBC/Reuters/Media Center Poll (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/02_05_06mediatrust.pdf), the stock market gives it a very, very, very unkind valuation of 440 crores. I agree TV18 and NDTV are fantastic companies, but they deserve a premium of 50-75% over TVTN (a similar difference between Deccan Chronicle and Jagran). TVTN thus deserves to trade at a market cap of 750-800 crores i.e. it should be priced at 129-137 Rs.

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Quote morpheus Replybullet Posted: 24/Oct/2006 at 7:14pm

Achilles your analysis on TVTN is pretty impressive. I work for one of its rival companies, and we find TVTN's valuations - silly! Their flagship channel AajTak's position is impregnable and it will retain the Numero Uno position for years to come. Unlike Rajdeep, Ashutosh cannot repeat a CNN-IBN, and at best IBN-7 can reach a No. 2 position. The talent AajTak constantly churns is remarkable. Tez is a good add-on to AajTak. Delhi AT was a smart move, as one would have to presume Purie has good relations with companies based in Delhi, translating in to lots of revenues for Delhi AT, once it is established, which is just a matter of time.

 

Purie's only concern should be Headlines Today. There is no dearth of talent at HT, as their ex-anchors Venkatesh and Tracy are currently prime-time anchors on CNN-IBN. HT lacks content. It is a plain, boring vanilla news channel whose content is outsourced from AajTak. The day Purie replaces the current guy managing HT with a person like Chetan Sharma, lets HT do its own content or spread its wings, infuses more youthful content on lines of CNN-IBN, HT's TRP is bound to improve and sponsors will follow. Let me add some of HT's anchors come across as amateurish like Zakka, Jhujhar and Denzil. Purie needs to infuse dynamism in HT to change its fortunes. If Rajdeep can make CNN-IBN beat NDTV 24x7 in 9 months, HT should be able to improve in a couple of quarters, if TVTN's management takes the necessary steps to improve it. The Last Word: Mr. Purie needs to see the obvious.



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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 24/Oct/2006 at 7:21pm
Morpheus, If you are actually working in a rival company would you like to switch over to Tv Today? If not any particular reason? You may ignore to answer this question but it is very important to understand why talent is running away from this company.
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