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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 05/Dec/2007 at 5:04pm
Investors convinced of long-term opportunity in power: SSKI
 
The investors do worry about these things but the issue there is that they are now very convinced on the opportunity that the power space offers long-term. If you look at it from a Planning Commission or a government’s perspective, the biggest emphasis is going to be laid on power. For the first time, maybe we will exceed our plan targets on megawatts of capacity that we will add in the next plan.
 
Clearly they have all realized that’s the area which needs to be fixed first and so, all the attention of the government, policymakers and the private players is on that business.
 
So while they are concerned about valuations moving up, it could also have been because they were at a certain point in time undervalued. Valuations, at a point in time, may look expensive, may consolidate and eventually go up, but I think they are convinced on the long-term story that is there in power. 
 
Unfortunately, this guy says "Investors convinced of long-term opportunity" rather than "SSKI is convinced of long-term opportunity in power"
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Quote deveshkayal Replybullet Posted: 05/Dec/2007 at 5:35pm

How about REL since its a combination of power and infrastructure. ADAG buying through pref.allotment is a positive if one goes by Mukesh buying through pref.allotment in RIL at 1300 while the CMP is around 2800 in just a short span.

One can also look at the ongoing IPO of BGR since Citi Venture and Reliance MF have bought in pre-IPO placement.
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Quote dhanabbal_g Replybullet Posted: 05/Dec/2007 at 5:53pm
Anil also invested in reliance capital @ 228. price now is ...
Invest when promoters buyiung thro warrants...Looks like its a sure-shot formula Smile




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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 05/Dec/2007 at 5:55pm
Buying into an existing power company is definitely better than buying "hot air" stocks in IPO like Reliance Power and Sterlite Energy. And buying an existing power company that is also diversifying into infrastructure is even better.
 
I'm into (power + infrastructure) theme with Adani Enterprises, GVK Power and JP Associates.
 
GVK Infra & Power seems to be the most interesting of the three. It's current market cap is Rs. 10,000 crores. They have a 1000 MW under operation and 1000 MW more under development. So if we use the Equitymaster.com formula, this alone with worth Rs. 8,000 crores. The Mumbai Airport comes almost for free.
 
But right now, the markets are enamoured by the big guys like Reliance Power. It might take some time for the investors to look at smaller ones like GVK.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 05/Dec/2007 at 8:22pm
A friend of mine is  invested in GVK and thinks that this is a multibagger. I value his recommendations.
  
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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 05/Dec/2007 at 11:13pm
You consider me as a friend? I'm honoured!
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Hey, waitaminute. You were not talking about me, were you?Ouch
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 05/Dec/2007 at 6:27am

What makes you think that I was not talking about you. Ok let me rephrase that staement and subsititute the word "friends" for "friend".



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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 05/Dec/2007 at 10:52am
Just kidding of course.
 
GVK just gave a contract of Rs. 5,000 crore to L&T to upgrade the Mumbai Airport. So on book value basis alone, GVK is worth around (5000 + 8000) = Rs. 13,000 crores.
 
But the reason why GVK is under the radar is that they messed up initially. GVK was originally a holding company whose earnings were based on trading and dividend income. Obviously, the market ignored the stock. The promoters must have realized the problem and dissolved the operating companies under GVK and amalgamated it with GVK.
 
So GVK is now no longer a holding company - and they restated their previous years' earnings. But GVK will never reach the valuation of GMR - because GMR holds a few thousand acres of land.
 
Building airports costs money. So in a public-private partnership for a Greenfield airport, the Govt gives XXXX acres of land to the infrastructure developer - so that he could develop the land to pay for the airport construction.
 
GVK was not assigned much land probably because their Mumbai project is not a greenfield airport. But I still wonder how they will manage to raise Rs. 5,000 crores? Disclosures are quite poor.
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