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    Posted: 24/Jun/2007 at 10:55am
Balmer Lawrie Investment holds 61.8% of Balmer Lawrie and therefore can consolidate the accounts. Then why is this huge discount?
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 25/Jun/2007 at 3:09pm
No other operating business. Balmer Lawrie Investment is holding just one company and is a pure holding company. There is no incentive for any one (in terms of business diversification) to hold Balmer Lawrie Investments vis-a-vis Balmer Lawrie.
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Quote nav_1996 Replybullet Posted: 25/Jun/2007 at 8:36am
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No other operating business. Balmer Lawrie Investment is holding just one company and is a pure holding company. There is no incentive for any one (in terms of business diversification) to hold Balmer Lawrie Investments vis-a-vis Balmer Lawrie.


Basantjee,
It still makes sense to hold Balmer Lawrie Investment if I want to hold Balmer Lawrie. Assuming that discount remains same Balmer Lawrie Investment will follow Balmer Lawrie prices. Coupled with this there is a chance of value unlocking if govt wants to divest.

Does my logic make sense?
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Quote jstk Replybullet Posted: 25/Jun/2007 at 11:54am

 i feel as an investment BLIL makes sense because :

1) operating costs :BLIL as a company hardly has any associated operational costs which eat into the dividends it receives from BL, so the ownership layer per se does not diminish any value.
 
2) ownership value :on the other hand, on the basis of its holding in BL, every BLIL share represents a 0.45 proportionate ownership in BL stock
 
so if BL trades at 440, theoretically, BLIL should trade at 198., but the market values it @ 50% discount , which means effectively at current price, if one buys into BLIL, one buys BL @ 220.
 
3) dividend : BL has declared a Rs.13.50 ( last year Rs.9 ) dividend which translates into a dividend of around Rs.13.5 cr for BLIL & an effective EPS of around Rs.6.
 
assuming a 45% payout by BLIL like last year, BLIL investors should get around Rs.1.7 - 2 per share additional dividend when the board meets this week. ( they alreday paid re.1 interim )
 
overall, my beleif is  BLIL is a good & cheaper proxy bet on BL.
 
lets wait for Basantjee's views.
 
 jayendra
 
 
 
If you buy for a non-value reason, you will end up selling for a non-value reason.
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 26/Jun/2007 at 12:08pm

My analysis is also on the same grounds:

1) BLIL is valued at Rs 200 crores whereas it holds around Rs 420 crores of Balmer lawrie. Therefore the discount is at more then 50%.
 
2) If you see their price history BLIL has never traded at this kind of a discount. This is the maximum in terms of discount that these two stocks have traded at.
 
3) Assuming Balmer lawrie gives out a dividend of Rs 13.5 per share then Balmer Lawrie investments receives a dividend of 60% * 13.5 = Rs 8.10
 
4) Now we all know how desperate the Govt. has been to fleece its companies for dividend so BLIL will pay out a significant part of its income as dividend. An attractive dividend yield subsidiary (Balmer Lawrie) makes the holding company (BLIL) even more attractive because of the disount.
 
5) Now if ever there is a disinvestment the Govt would sell out Balmer Lawrie Investments because that is what the Govt owns so the disonvetment trigger is in the parent company.
 
Conclusion: Excellent value without any soiignificant value unlocking catalysts in the near term.But between the two this is obviously a better bet.
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