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Quote monu_duggad Replybullet Topic: Mistakes we made-How we lost our first million(s)?
    Posted: 07/Sep/2006 at 6:36pm
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Its fashionable to bask in the glory of success...we love to talk about our multibaggers and decisions which went well.....
 
I think we should also discuss the mistakes that we have committed regarding stock selection,when greed got the better off us....when we falterred in our search of hidden gems...etc....so that we learn from each other's mistakes and carry this "baggage" while making future decisions...
 
e.g. basantji,in one of the articles on this forum "smart vs overmsmart money" talked about his mistakes during the techboom...(dsq,adhikari brothers of the world)...
 
lets share our mistakes if u r comfortable doing tht...(many of us dont want to revisit scratch the itchy surface...)...
 
i will inaugarate the discussion...
...am new to investing...but yes...i ventured into day trading...one day i made quick buck on bombay dyeing by shorting it.....next day (i mean it) i lost all that when i shorted it again....it went up like anything ....and yours truly hasnt applied stop loss.....was a big jolt to me..and since that day i havent touched bombay dyeing


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Quote prosperity Replybullet Posted: 07/Sep/2006 at 6:45pm
I sold a stock that i was very convinced about - when it became a 3 bagger ...  But now, i look back after 2 years of selling it .. it is 20 bagger !
         
Biggest risk is not taking one :)
        
Smartness is to take a calculated risk ... than an uncalculated random risk, OR than not taking one at all
    
 


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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 07/Sep/2006 at 7:24pm

 

I love talking about my tech boom days. I had this sectoral approach then also but mixed it up with PE and EPS. It goes something like this.

 

In 1997 I bought Satyam and sold off because I was making 25% in one week. Satyam used to move like crazy then.

 

The best part (coz I learnt from it) was in the year 1999. I reentered software buying DSQ, Silverline, Pentamedia and Sri Adhikari (yes no Global and no HFCL missed it). In about 8 months I had a list of 5 and ten baggers with me. My over all portfolio was up seven times I had also invested in some non performing consumer and Pharma companies  and I started to get worried.

 

I thought that software stocks would fall and was working on the idea of converting everything to Infy and Satyam but I stopped.

 

The red chips that I was owing traded at a PE of 100 times and the blue chips I wanted to own were at a PE of 100 times.

 

Now I did not want to sell a low PE stock to buy the higher PE ones. As prices fell these stocks fell further so relatively their attractiveness improved. I bought more at each decline by borrowing from a Bank. But the prices kept falling and the margins had to be met by pledging more shares - since there was no surplus cash.

 

At one point in time I had pledged all my shares and would buy new ones only if they were bank approved. Finally inevitable happened. the bank sold off my shares and credited the a/c with the balance. I learnt the most important lesson of my life

 

1)    Always invest in the sector leader either No. 1 or No. 2

2)    DO not buy any thing that you do not understand .Better to buy things that you can see.

3)     If you have made a 400% on a stock you need to lose only 80% to break even.

4)    Do not look at the PE alone. “An investor shall not live by PE alone”

 

I have tried putting My investing strategies on a different section at this forum. Most of it has been created through reading and experiencing (losing) and hardly anything by listening.

 
 
 
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Quote Vivek Sukhani Replybullet Posted: 07/Sep/2006 at 8:18pm
well, my biggest folly has been teledata informatics. I saw the Ad on CNBC and rushed to buy it, when I came to know that its Annualised EPS is 38 rupees and its trading at 45.I managed to get rid of this baggage @ 20. The Lesson that I learnt was that never have a stock which Advertise advocating the purchase of its share.This was perhaps the only time I hadnt devoyed any time before trading long, and perhaps will also try to make this the last time.
 
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Quote kulman Replybullet Posted: 07/Sep/2006 at 8:34pm
Brokers chase clients to trade in F&O for their own good, which is fat brokerage fee.

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Quote reetesh Replybullet Posted: 07/Sep/2006 at 9:19pm
  This is one of  your point that you learned from year 2001.   If you have made a 400% on a stock you need to lose only 80% to break even.  What do you mean by this can you elaborate further..
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Quote basant Replybullet Posted: 07/Sep/2006 at 9:41pm
A stock that you buy at Rs 100 goes to Rs 500 and that it 400% returns. WHen it falls back to rs 100 it is only a 80% loss on Rs 500.
 
That is why they say "It is easier to destroy somethinga 100 times faster then it was built"
 
When the market fell from 12,700 to 8800 we lost 31%. Now to recover that 31% we need to grow 44%.
 
It may sound simple and academic but it means a lot. It tells you how tough it is to make money and also to keep it. A slight error at a markjet top (known only when it is made) can cost you years off hard work.
 
 
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Quote reetesh Replybullet Posted: 07/Sep/2006 at 9:51pm

Great point.

When going gets tough, that’s when tough (people) gets going.
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