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    Posted: 12/Jul/2010 at 2:30pm
Some homework I did on asbestos sheet companies. 
Added some visaka inds besides sahyadri.
 
 

Year

05

06

07

08

09

10

Sales

50

113

172

222

257

295

Int paid

2.13

5.17

9.55

12.03

8.36

7.24

NP

4.81

10.44

3.83

6.66

19.7

26.8

Eps

6.62

10.54

3.84

6.8

20.25

28

Bv

23

34

37

43

61

82

Roe

28.7

31

10

15.8

33.2

34.14

npm

9.62

9.23

2.22

3

7.66

9.08

SAHYADRI INDS MARKET CAP 130 CR  CMP 140 fy 10 mcp to sales 0.44

 

YEAR

05

06

07

08

09

10

SALES

213

303

445

460

606

639

Int paid

7.56

11.77

14.37

17.24

18.36

12.4

NP

14.37

19.26

23.27

9.77

38.56

58.35

Eps

12.67

17.24

14.13

4.31

21.9

35.09

BV

65

80

98

100

118

148

Roe

19.5

21.5

14.41

4.31

18.64

23.64

Npm

6.62

6.35

5.23

2.12

6.36

9.13

Visaka inds   market cap 284 cr  cmp 180                market cap to sales 0.44

Year

05

06

07

08

09

10

Sales

415

448

476

523

663

756

Int paid

12

5

5

7.8

9.42

6.25

NP

11

39

16

13.7

45

89.55

Eps

13.24

51.84

17.81

17.96

57.7

117

BV

109

176

182

194

241

342

Roe

12.14

29.45

9.78

9.25

23.94

34.21

Npm

2.65

8.7

3.36

2.62

6.79

11.84

Hyd inds              market cap 550 crores mcap to sales 0.72    cmp 739

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Quote joslinjose9 Replybullet Posted: 12/Jul/2010 at 7:18pm
hi hit,
in a recent interview in cnbc ramesh damani said he is very bullish on asbestos companies and he owned hydrebad industries,visaka industries and he bets more on everest industries.
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Quote hit2710 Replybullet Posted: 12/Jul/2010 at 7:51pm
Originally posted by joslinjose9

hi hit,
in a recent interview in cnbc ramesh damani said he is very bullish on asbestos companies and he owned hydrebad industries,visaka industries and he bets more on everest industries.


I feel the whole sector as a whole probably is in for a re-rating. If they can manage good results for a couple of quarters, things can improve on valuation front.
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Quote Shadofax Replybullet Posted: 13/Jul/2010 at 12:34pm
Hello Hit,

I want to better understand this asbestos business.
Where is it exactly used?
Any idea where I can understand this sector better?

Also can we say that this business is a consumer driven business?

Also suppose if we want to do a basket buying in this sector ... top 4 companies. Which one do you think we should bet on? (in order of priority)

Thanks,
Dhruvesh

P.S: Hit its really amazing the way you digout these stocks. Is it again from the Edel screener
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Quote hit2710 Replybullet Posted: 13/Jul/2010 at 1:20pm
Hi dhruvesh,

The main consumers for asbestos sheets would be rural lower and middle income group people who cannot afford pukka houses. With benefits of buoyant economy percolating to the rural sector, it is likely to be the new sector that drives demand and hence the focus on this sector.

In order of preference, I would go for sahyadri, visaka and hyderabad inds. I own the first two. Sahyadri because for a small company it is available at great valuation of 5-6 PE and ROE of 34 to boast of. I am playing for the growth to continue and a rerating of the sector to around 7-8 PE.
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Quote Vivek Sukhani Replybullet Posted: 13/Jul/2010 at 2:09pm
Also, not to forget, falling cement prices can be a big boost to these companies, although thats an industry-wide phenomenon and not connected with any particular company.
 
I have just one company of them in my portfolio. And the reason I would just stick to Hyderabad Industries, is that they are into other products as well besides corrugated fibre cement sheets.
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Quote Monkey Replybullet Posted: 13/Jul/2010 at 2:30pm
I understand that Asbestose is hazardous for health. Use of Asbestose is banned in Western countries. Many companies faced serious problems of survival in Western countries due to Asbestose related law suits.
 
Even though this might not be the case currently in India, how about possibility of ban on Asbestose? & then associated issues with these companies?
 
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Quote karn Replybullet Posted: 13/Jul/2010 at 2:32pm
Originally posted by Monkey

I understand that Asbestose is hazardous for health. Use of Asbestose is banned in Western countries. Many companies faced serious problems of survival in Western countries due to Asbestose related law suits.
 

Even though this might not be the case currently in India, how about possibility of ban on Asbestose? & then associated issues with these companies?

 


Absolutely right sir. Use of the same is banned in all MNC and many of private project undertakings.
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