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    Posted: 04/Jul/2008 at 9:51pm
bks 404 this is a good place to start the discussion.
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Quote mahesh004 Replybullet Posted: 08/Jul/2008 at 2:24pm

Is any one aware of competitive advantage of this company?

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Quote shankar Replybullet Posted: 06/Sep/2008 at 9:13pm
Hi Mahesh 004, I have been a longtime shareholder of Rishi Laser.  I feel the management is very honest as evidenced by some statements in their annual report where they themselves admit to not being able to convert "enquiries to orders" due to lack of capacity.  Having discovered their weakness, i.e., lack of scale, they have taken considerable steps scaling up their ops.  Fabrication is not an industry with high entry barriers.  CNC and laser cutting too are done by both small and medium-sized vendors.  However, the key now is scale, scale, and scale.  These guys have a dedicated unit in bangalore to serve L&T Case.  They are apparently betting big on fabrication of earth-moving equipment.  I guess Rakesh Jhunjhunwala got interested in this investment due to his investment in BEML, for which apparently Rishi Laser was a supplier.  Besides Mankekar was an erstwhile shareholder but has sold off, maybe he got tired of waiting for scale to come.
 
The competitive advantage of the company stems from the fact that they are scaling up not only in the number of plants but in the number of CNC machines.  CNC machines operate with little or no manual intervention.  They can even be operated and controlled remotely on weekends when the factory workers are off!!!  The huge order books of L&T, BEML, BHEL and many other capital goods companies and the huge amount of outsourcing expected from Japanese and American auto giants to India of fabrication and even design services presents a great opportunity for nimble companies like Rishi.  The only differentiator from any other fabrication companies is that Rishi is driving towards scale whereas others aren't as quick at scaling up.  Since margins are going to be squeezed inevitable for small suppliers like these who are B2B, scale is going to make the same difference that it did to Nagarjuna Constructions in the construction business - another notoriously low-margin business.
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Quote valueman Replybullet Posted: 06/Sep/2008 at 9:31am
I guess Rakesh Jhunjhunwala got interested in this investment due to his investment in BEML, for which apparently Rishi Laser was a supplier.


I guess it could also be due to the fact that Warren Buffett invested in an Isareli Company ISCAR that is involved in similar business .

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Quote shankar Replybullet Posted: 06/Sep/2008 at 9:48am
HI Valueman,
 
I guess that is another technique of finding what the good companies are, by inquiring about the suppliers of other good businesses.  I remember my friend used to work in UB and knew about Praj Industries all along when it was a penny stock.  Had he made inquiries and invested, he would have had around a 40-bagger by now.
 
Thanks for the info about ISCAR.  As an aside, I believe Buffett is now changing his ways.  He is investing in commodities, currencies, and technology; things that he had shunned for a long time.  Maybe because Berkshire has gotten too big to produce above-average returns from conservative investments and this makes Buffett go ahead and seek investments that were once alien to his style.  Buffett has admitted that size of Berkshire is becoming a problem in providing or maintaining the growth rates of the past into the future.


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Quote shankar Replybullet Posted: 06/Sep/2008 at 9:50am
By the way, this is the only decent writeup about this company that I found on the net.
 
Introduction-Rishi laser is a leader in the usage of Laser Cutting for manufacturing components and assemblies.Rishi(RLCL) set up its first Laser Cutting facility in 1995. Even though Laser Cutting was very popular in Western Countries at that time, Laser Cutting of metals was very new to India.The progress in the first five years was very slow because Laser Cutting was still looked as a very expensive method of processing steel. Also the Indian Engineering Capital Goods Industry was passing through a very difficult period in later nineties.
 
The scenario has completely changed today for the sector and the company. The Engineering and Capital Goods sector is booming in India and Laser Cutting is fast becoming a very standard method of processing flat steel.The fabrication industry is highly fragmented and there are very few organised large Companies in the business. Rishi Laser continues to be the leader in the business in terms of capacity with 20 CNC steel processing machines. RLCL is now embarking on major growth path to add further facilities to enhance capacity.
 
Initiatives-Rishi was earlier concentrating on only being a service provider.The management says," We increasingly found that this was limiting growth since customers were demanding further processes including bending, welding, painting etc. We therefore started moving towards value addition and supplies of assemblies and fabrications and this trend is expected to increase.
 
Since the company is a service provider and a supplier of assemblies it became imperative to move closer to the customers.To move up the value chain the company recently has acquired the plant & machinery of a British Sheet Metal Fabrication Company and the same is proposed to move it to India and install at its existing plants.On last fiscal 06-07 the company commisioned separate facilities to create a foundation for large exports in coming years by making a small beginning in exports. The welding capabilities of the Company too have been strengthened to ensure capability to service the sector.
 
Outsourcing Oppurtunity=Due to increasing cost pressures,the European Companies are increasingly being forced to outsource components and assemblies. RLCL is well placed to supply light and medium fabrications because of its modern facilities, good Engineering base and experience of similar supplies in domestic industry.We beleive,In the current global economic scenario the trend towards outsourcing will increase. Also it would important to note that,India has a tremendous cost advantage where the items have a high Engineering content. RLCLs products are not mass produced items and require Engineering inputs at all stages.Thus Outsourcing can become a huge growth provider for the company in future.
 
Risks And Concerns-Rishi is a supplier to the Engineering Sector.So any down trend in Engineering Sector will have an adverse effect on the Company's prospects.Interest rate hardening and higher inflation could increase costs, which cannot be passed on to customers. Any appreciation of the Rupee will affect the profitability of the company's exports. Poor export infrastructure could force overseas customers to look at other countries for their sourcing needs.
 
Prospects-The Company has continued to consolidate its position in the business by creating substantial additional capacity. The demand for quality steel profiles and fabrications made from such profiles, is very robust. Large capacity is a great competitive strength as deliveries can be made very fast as also greater flexibility/variety of supply is possible. As Indian Companies in' the engineering sector have increasing order backlogs their requirement is for quicker & timely deliveries. RLCL is very well positioned to fulfill this demand because of its large capacities as also due to plants at multiple locations. The Company is making further efforts to increase its reach as also to increase capacities. Also it must be noted that the demand for steel is expected to grow substantially in the coming decade. The bullishness in this sector is evident from the huge capacity creation that is being planned by the steel sector. The proportion of sheet steel and plates consumed by the engineering sector will grow proportionately. The processing of this steel into Components, assemblies and fabrications will require huge capacity creation by the fabrication industry. We therefore expect the requirement for the company"s products and services to increase manifold.
 
Outlook-The demand has grown for the sector and the company all round as the Engineering Industries have revived and are booming. As per CMIE the ongoing CAPEX by India Inc will be over Rs. 8,00,000 crores.The demand in Electrical Switchgear Industry and the Earth Moving sector has exploded due to increased spending on infrastructure. We believe that this process will get accentuated as India will have to spend increasingly large sums of money on infrastructure if GDP has to grow at 8-9% to p.a.The Company has moved towards more value addition to cut steel. By doing this the potential market that the Company can cater to has increased by 100 times. This has also opened opportunities for RLCL to move from light fabrication to medium fabrication.The management says," We believe that the opportunities in the medium fabrications are substantially higher - especially from the Earth Moving Industry".Thus all things are looking up for rishi laser and this all will take the company to new heights.
Conclusion=Rishi has been consistently perfoming well over the last 4 years or so and the same trend is expected to continue in the coming years as well.We expect RLCL to deliver a topline of aound 75crs and a bottomline of about 4.8crs for fy08
With a low equity base of 6crs the bottomline results in an EPS about 8rs.At the current price of 67rs RLCL quotes at a P.E of slightly above 8.3 times.Present valuation looks attractive at the moment and considering its leadership in the sector,the export potential,outsourcing oppurtunities and booming exconomy,


Edited by shankar - 06/Sep/2008 at 9:52am
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Debt is too high
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Promoters holding very low only 21%
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