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kmp_saij
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bullet Posted: 19/Jun/2010 at 2:21am
In this case, it would be wise to apply this maxim, "when in doubt, avoid"
Own whatever’s feared, shun whatever’s beloved.
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bullet Posted: 19/Jun/2010 at 6:26am
A very old report: https://www.pacefin.com/admin/InvAdvice/DR330868062.pdf
Buy Solid Companies. Hold for 5 years. Avoid watching TV. Sleep Well.
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bullet Posted: 19/Jun/2010 at 11:52am
 
I called up the company for annual report and received it in a day by courier.Annual report is not very glossy and is very functional .
 
Some points that i noticed :
 
Strong brand in the foods space . 
 
Good Product : I purchased bambino vermicelli from a kirana shop near my house and had upma that night . Its nice product.Shop keeper said that its a steady moving item .1 packet of vermicelli ( i think half kg ) priced at Rs.29 and sold to me at Rs.28
 
Promoter commitment : They hold close to 75% . Further they have advanced 9.49 Crores to the company as unsecured loans with no interest payable by company.
 
Sales is 181 Crores.Material costs at 131 Crores.Manufacturing expenses at 8.50 Crores:Salaries at 9.10 Crores: Administration expenses at 3.74 Crores : Selling expenses at 16.22 Crores : Interest Cost at 7.51 Crore :Profit after tax and all adjustments ( final ) is 37.42 Lacs ( Last year it was 13.22 Crores ! )
 
Yes Debt is high at 58 odd crores which i see that they want to close out thro; below 2 means :
 
Focus area needs to be sales promotion costs and interest costs.
 
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Company has taken shareholder approval to issue redeemable preference shares upto maximum 25 crores. 
 
Float is too low and even a buy order for 1000 shares takes the scrip into orbit . Promoters investing 9.49 crore as zero interest unsecured loan to company is a huge positive considering company's size and considering very high promoter holding at close to 75%.
 
Need to see if with such a strong brand why don't they or if they enjoy pricing power .As the volumes are high ( Production of 73835 metric tonnes and sales of 73127 metric tonnes ) a small price increase can make dispropotionate impact to margins .
 
Above nos are for year ended 30.09.2009.
 
Results for first half of current year ( period 01.10.2009 to 31.03.2010 ) have shown eps of 0.97 for 6 month period compared to eps of 0.65 of prior year showing a jump of 50% . Remember eps for 12 months ended 30.09.2009 was only 0.47 so this is indeed improvement.
 
Welcome more inputs,perspectives.
 
  
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bullet Posted: 22/Jun/2010 at 10:36am
 
I had a preliminary call with the management and followed it up with a letter to their finance department requesting for explanations for their abysmal low margins of 0.2 % PAT and high material costs of 72% .I am awaiting a reply still .
 
I was told by management to expect dividend this year ( 10% ) . While this is possible ( not certain but possible ) I made the point that if the margins are a realistic 10% on PAT basis this company would have an eps of 23 as against just 0.46 last year . Even at a conservative 10 pe it can be a multibagger then.
 
 


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bullet Posted: 23/Jun/2010 at 1:19pm
I had similar observation about the product. Please do keep us posted on the margin front.
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bullet Posted: 02/Jul/2010 at 8:16pm
Final post from me on this stock :
 
Disappointed with company interractions - Unable to get even an assurance of a reply to my queries on low margins,high material costs.I found out that retailers are making 8% margins selling bambino product vermicelli and I assume distributor makes at least 4% - So company should have been making at least 12% instead of less than 1% ( despite interest costs ) .They have been trying to hire a cfo for some time now but seems not succesful
 
The concern stems from integrity related or governance related issues - They have 2 promoter firms which are unlisted and my unfounded suspicion is that material costs are high due to bloated purchases which any way is non taxable as agricultural income for the selling unlisted promoter firm but reduces share of profits available to minority share holder.
 
Promoter is Mr Kishan Rao who I believe was accused of fraud in an earlier venture called spectrum power where money was raised from NRIs but not used - Relevant link is below : There are also some news articles related to above arrest which can be googled .Below court judgement relates to 1994 and pronounced in 2000.
 
 
Summary : Even if this may or may not make money for you as a shareholder this does not allow you to remain at peace as a shareholder with constant worries on management integrity .So I am not recommending buy - rather would suggest getting out if someone is already in .
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bullet Posted: 02/Jul/2010 at 8:30pm

Thanks for the post

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bullet Posted: 02/Jul/2010 at 9:39pm
TEDians rock.. thanks anthropod
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