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    Posted: 04/Jul/2009 at 1:14am
Bharat Forge is one of the leading forging companies in the world. It is managed by Baba Kalyani of the Kalyani group.
 
There were various problems associated with the scrip:
 
1. Slump in the auto industry
 
2. FCCB issue
 
3. Subsidiaries which could act as a drag on the bottomline.
 
To address these issues, management decided to focus on non automotive business by making foray into forging components for the non automotive sectors especially power etc. This strategy will reduce the risk of auto industry slowdown and increase the margins of the company because there is a lot of value addition in non automotive business.
 
The Unaudited results for the Quarter ended March 31, 2009

The Company has posted a net profit of Rs 611.30 million for the quarter ended March 31, 2009 as compared to Rs 828.50 million for the quarter ended March 31, 2008. Total Income has decreased from Rs 5923.10 million for the quarter ended March 31, 2008 to Rs 3068.40 million for the quarter ended March 31, 2009.

The Audited results for the Year ended March 31, 2009

The Company has posted a net profit of Rs 1032.90 million for the year ended March 31, 2009 as compared to Rs 2735.90 million for the year ended March 31, 2008. Total Income has decreased from Rs 22588.40 million for the year ended March 31, 2008 to Rs 21063.50 million for the year ended March 31, 2009.

The Consolidated results are as follows:

The Audited consolidated results for the Year ended March 31, 2009

The Group has posted a Income attributable to the consolidated group of Rs 582.60 million for the year ended March 31, 2009 as compared to Rs 3015.30 million for the year ended March 31, 2008. Total Income has increased from Rs 47304.60 million for the year ended March 31, 2008 to Rs 48427.50 million for the year ended March 31, 2009.
 
 
Exports emerged as the saving grace for the company, registering a 4% growth for the full year. Important to add that the exports grew despite the drastic fall in production in the company’s exports markets because of two factors. One, the company managed to increase its market share and second, it tapped newer segments like the non-automotive forgings. Speaking of latter, its contribution to the company’s standalone topline increased to 28% from 20% in FY08. The fact that the rupee weakened against the dollar and the company was able to pass through raw material cost hikes also helped growth in exports. As far as the prospects for the current fiscal are concerned, the company is of the belief that the worst is behind us and Bharat Forge’s own performance might be better than that witnessed in the second half of the fiscal.
  • Apart from fall in operating profits, movement in all the other P&L items has also remained adverse, putting further pressure on the company’s standalone profitability. Furthermore, forex losses to the tune of Rs 863 m on account of revaluation of foreign currency assets/liabilities also hurt its performance. These factors put together have led to a 62% drop in company’s standalone bottomline during the fiscal.
  • Standalone eps is 4.62 and consolidated eps is 2.62.
  • I have hereby posted the facts I know before the forum.
  • The question one needs to answer is IS THE WORST OVER FOR THE STOCK? DOES IT MERIT CONSIDERATION FOR INVESTMENT FOR THE LONG TERM?
  • According to a result update I read , FY 11 eps is expected to be around 16-17 and if that is so the stock currently is available at a forward pe of about 8-9.
  • Overhang of FCCB remains because they are not hedged and if rupee depreciates against the dollar, the notional losses may increases.
  • At present Bharat forge looks like a long term bet where if things fall into place, the stock could give very good returns.

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    Quote hit2710 Replybullet Posted: 26/Jul/2009 at 3:26pm
    q1 results not very great.

    Stock price still moves up.

    There is expectation that non automotive business is going to be a big factor for the stock going forward and market seems to have got over the disappointment of the last three quarterly numbers.   
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    Quote hit2710 Replybullet Posted: 03/Aug/2009 at 2:35pm
    BHARAT FORGE 238
    I THINK STOCK IS GOING UP MORE IN HOPE THAN FUNDAMENTALS.
    BOOKED OUT SMALL POSITION TODAY.
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    Quote subu76 Replybullet Posted: 03/Aug/2009 at 4:56pm
    hit...In my opinion....if you have got a good price on Bharat Forge...you don't want to let it go for some shall change gains......even if the price fluctuates temporarily....
     
    it's important to ride these strong cyclicals into good economy.......
     
    Otherwise what is the point in providing support during bad times?
     
    i.e. unless you have found a far more attractive deal
     


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    Quote hit2710 Replybullet Posted: 03/Aug/2009 at 6:50pm
    I had bought only 150 shares at around 145 in the hope of getting something like 50 % returns over six months and now I am getting more than I bargained within one and a half months and hence I exited. Besides I feel it has run up too fast on some good news. I might consider re entering at some lower levels otherwise plenty of bargains out there. I am not too comfortable playing cyclicals. I have set my sights on some smaller stocks. Let us see if markets oblige and correct. I am slowly getting into cash mode.
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    Quote khokhadream Replybullet Posted: 03/Dec/2009 at 1:28pm
    http://m.timesofindia.com/PDATOI/articleshow/5294075.cms

    To me bharat forge looks to be a solid candidate for long term. 2012 onwards it looks like this company will have solid revenue stream. It looks like a good infrastructure play to me.

    Can anyone cite any risk factors going forward.
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    Quote nazgul Replybullet Posted: 03/Dec/2009 at 2:46pm
    Originally posted by khokhadream

    http://m.timesofindia.com/PDATOI/articleshow/5294075.cms

    To me bharat forge looks to be a solid candidate for long term. 2012 onwards it looks like this company will have solid revenue stream. It looks like a good infrastructure play to me.

    Can anyone cite any risk factors going forward.


    this looks like an interesting piece indeed.....
    i wasnt aware that our power manufactiring companies didnt have anything good enough to match alstorm technology.
    I don't do funds, i do fundas.
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