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Quote Hitesh Shah Replybullet Topic: Housing Finance Companies
    Posted: 05/Jul/2009 at 2:17pm
Other than HDFC, there doesn't seem to be a topic devoted to housing finance companies.


Housing Finance: The Four Musketeers
Between HDFC, Gruh Finance, LIC Housing Finance and GIC Housing, these GOI backed institutions control almost the entire home finance requirements of the country. Strong net margins, business growth and lack of NPAs make them a direct and exciting play on the burgeoning Real Estate sector in the country.

Disclosure: I hold GIC Housing Finance.





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Quote Hitesh Shah Replybullet Posted: 05/Jul/2009 at 10:16pm
In terms of ownership by mutual funds, HDFC obviously is a staple. LIC Housing Finance has become quite popular recently, and, as of 31/05/2009, Gruh Finance was owned only by schemes of DSP BlackRock. As of 31/05/2009, no fund was invested in GIC Housing Finance or Dewan Housing. This is based on data from valueresearchonline.com.
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Quote wiseowl Replybullet Posted: 07/Jul/2009 at 1:53pm
My concerns about GICHF :

1) Consistently high NPAs. Probably amongst the highest among all HFCs.

2) Does not seem to leverage upon the muscle / brand of GIC. Office network is not as wide as one hopes it to be.

3) How much of an interest does GIC have in making this company a star ? They did not have any success with their MF venture.

4) Among the first promoters of GICHF, there were companies like SBI, ICICI etc who had their own HF arms, and therefore conflicting interests. Now the shareholding pattern has changed with the entry of FIIs also. However, it still seems that the company is not able to realise its full potential.

Could you please throw more light on these aspects ?


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Quote Hitesh Shah Replybullet Posted: 07/Jul/2009 at 4:47pm
Hi Wiseowl,

My prime reason for getting into this was the attractive & stable dividend yield. At my acquistion cost (~Rs. 40) and at the current DPS (Rs. 4), it works out to ~10%. (I had posted the company's ten-year financial summary somewhere in the Good Dividend Yield Stocks topic but can't find it right nowEmbarrassed.)

In this light, the other factors are not important to me.

If I were investing in a growth stock certainly the points you raise would be relevant. In that case, LIC Housing would seem the most attractive but for the recent amazing run-up.

Your other point about them making a hash of their MF venture.... What to say?
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Quote smartcat Replybullet Posted: 07/Jul/2009 at 5:32pm
Neat. Let me take a look at the companies you have mentioned.
 
GIC Housing looks the least interesting of the lot -  they have managed to grow their profits by 7.5% CAGR in the last 2 years (supposedly boom time for real estate). LIC and Gruh look okay, after a quick glance.
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Quote chaudhuris Replybullet Posted: 08/Jul/2009 at 11:04pm
1% and up non-promoter owners of GICHF:


Sl. No.     Name of the Shareholder     No. of Shares     Shares as % of Total No. of Shares
1      Caledonia Investments PLC     5,115,851      9.50
2      Life Insurance Corporation of India Ltd     2,712,250      5.04
3      Tata Investment Corporation Ltd     1,330,800      2.47
4      Acacia Partners LP     1,050,000      1.95
5      CD Equisearch Pvt Ltd     915,422      1.70
6      Acacia Institutional Partners LP     740,000      1.37
Total     11,864,323      22.03
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Quote chaudhuris Replybullet Posted: 08/Jul/2009 at 11:06pm
The same for Gruh Finance:

Sl. No.     Name of the Shareholder     No. of Shares     Shares as % of Total No. of Shares
1      Merrill Lynch Capital Markets ESPANA S A S V     1,155,268      3.33
2      ACACIA Partners LP     1,103,775      3.19
3      Dr Sanjeev Arora     677,410      1.95
4      DSP Blackrock Small & Midcap Fund     669,327      1.93
5      DSP Blackrock Equity Fund     531,491      1.53
6      Tata Investment Corporation Ltd     500,000      1.44
7      Acacia Institutional Partners LP     467,200      1.35
Total     5,104,471      14.73
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Quote chaudhuris Replybullet Posted: 08/Jul/2009 at 11:09pm
I have some presence in GICHF and a a very minute presence in Gruh. If there is any mispricing in Gruh then I would definitely increase my holdings there. But it is a little expensive, even at the current price - looking from a value perspective.

I would strongly encourage the Gruh stock price to correct further.
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