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![Reply](forum_images/reply.gif) Posted: 25/Mar/2009 at 9:13am |
Absolutely. They tried to put off the burn by pouring some cold water!
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![Reply](forum_images/reply.gif) Posted: 26/Mar/2009 at 3:04pm |
Originally posted by praveen
They have a history of trying to diversify/diworsify as the case may be in the"hot sectors" that era from cellular operations in 1990s to online business in "2000s" to say power generation in 2008.
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Since they make electrical equipments, power generation seems to be an allied field. So it appears that they moved into a not-so-unrelated diversification this time . APIL is up and running (although with its own expansion programme), so the payback time may not be as long as that for a greenfield venture. However, the company could have first sorted out the huge debt of its subsidiaries before moving to the APIL turf.
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![Reply](forum_images/reply.gif) Posted: 26/Mar/2009 at 4:31pm |
Boss, in these promoter-run companies, the diktat of the promoter will work. Take it....or leave it, your choice!!!! |
haha.. looks like many investors ticked the second option and "left it".
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![Reply](forum_images/reply.gif) Posted: 26/Mar/2009 at 4:40pm |
Originally posted by smartcat
Boss, in these promoter-run companies, the diktat of the promoter will work. Take it....or leave it, your choice!!!! |
haha.. looks like many investors ticked the second option and "left it". |
....and lost an opportunity to make a10 p.c+ in a day......hehehe
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![Reply](forum_images/reply.gif) Posted: 09/Apr/2009 at 2:26am |
Originally posted by wiseowl
Originally posted by praveen
They have a history of trying to diversify/diworsify as the case may be in the"hot sectors" that era from cellular operations in 1990s to online business in "2000s" to say power generation in 2008.
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Since they make electrical equipments, power generation seems to be an allied field. So it appears that they moved into a not-so-unrelated diversification this time . APIL is up and running (although with its own expansion programme), so the payback time may not be as long as that for a greenfield venture. However, the company could have first sorted out the huge debt of its subsidiaries before moving to the APIL turf.
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This is true...power generation is an allied field and plus the acquisition is not at a premium, but at book value. So I don't think we should suspect that the management is trying to pull a 'satyam' here. Having said that, I think there are risks of a history of diworsification here that should be kept in mind. Also, thier US and Euro operations could be hit in the slowdown. At 12-13 times PE and 5 times book, I don't think the risks have been adequately priced in (even considering the buyback). Overall though, a strong company with excellent products and respected brand - I would personally though wait for the prices to come down further.
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![Reply](forum_images/reply.gif) Posted: 20/May/2009 at 5:17pm |
Crompton Greaves, manufacturer of transformers (among other things) whose demise was predicted by many:
Year's low: 99.40 CMP: 251.35
A modest two-bagger (at least).
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![Reply](forum_images/reply.gif) Posted: 20/May/2009 at 5:41pm |
Its fashionable to pick holes isn't it? How many predicated the demise of Pantaloon Retail?
Its better to get direct rather then go indirect with statements like "many"!
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![Reply](forum_images/reply.gif) Posted: 20/May/2009 at 5:53pm |
I read the thread just before posting. There were many posts negative. I, Vivek, & Praveen were a bit postive.
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