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Quote manish_okhade Replybullet Posted: 25/Apr/2011 at 3:02pm
Originally posted by nikhilmoryani

Is there any Infy that we are overlooking today?
 
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Quote akrish1982 Replybullet Posted: 06/May/2011 at 6:37pm
I am not really sure if we would have made great money if we had bought in 2000. See this:
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/market-outlook/ramesh-damani-demystifies-money-making-maxims_513554.html

there were only 2 bonuses since 2000:

Jul 13 2006     1:1 Bonus

Jul 4 2004     3:1 Bonus

there were no stock splits. This means the adjusted price would be one eight the price in 2000. In Q1 of 2000, the price was Rs. 12,000. which is 1500 at current prices.
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Quote subu76 Replybullet Posted: 06/May/2011 at 11:44am
Knowing the business is important if my take away.
Isn't it instructive that all Teddites have been wrong about the next Infy on this thread......Educomp, Pantaloon, Fin Tech etc.
 
No wonder these things are once in a life time and very few of us will get to ride a Infy and fewer will manage to hold
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Quote paps3535 Replybullet Posted: 14/Jun/2011 at 5:11pm
Just wanted to share following info with all of you:
 
 
We all know about the growth story of Infosys. How about the stock? Let’s find out. Infosys was founded by Narayana Murthy along with some others in 1981.

It came with an IPO in 1993 at the price of Rs. 95. Everybody who applied got the shares. Many missed the Diamond opportunity by not applying.  Suppose that a person applied for 100 Shares. It would cost him Rs. 9500. Let us assume that he is holding the same position till today. What will be the value now?

Let us calculate.

Remember that in these 17 years Infosys would have offered many dividends. Let us keep this aside and calculate the value of shares alone.

Soon after IPO, Infy  gave 1:1 bonus in 1994. So, our 100 shares will be 200 in 1994. Again they gave 1:1 bonus in 1996. That will take the count to 400 shares. And again in 1998 they offered bonus of 1:3 shares. That will take our count to 1600 shares.

In 2000, they split the stocks (Rs. 10 FC to Rs. 5 FC). This will take our count to 3200 shares. In 2004, again they announced 1:1 bonus. It will take our count to 6400 shares. Recently, in 2006 they gave bonus shares in the ratio of 1:1. Now, the count of ours would be 12800.

On 11/10/2010, I checked the CMP of Infosys. It’s Rs. 3070. So, what will be the value of our shares?

12800 x 3070 = Rs. 3,92,96,000 Yes, its Three Crores Ninety two Lakhs Ninety Six Thousand only.

What other investment would have taken to this level? Real-Estate? Bank Deposit? Gold? I don’t think so. A Bank deposit of Rs. 9500 in the same year at the rate of 12% would have hardly fetched us Rs.60,000 by this time.

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Quote arvi2020 Replybullet Posted: 14/Jun/2011 at 6:50pm
Dear TED gurus,

Can any one tell me the present value of 25 shares of Reliance Industries which were allotted in the initial public offer on 28.06.1975

I am unable to find the required splits and bonus data for this scrip.

Thanks for sparing the time for my question.
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Quote itpro Replybullet Posted: 14/Jun/2011 at 7:14pm
Originally posted by paps3535

Just wanted to share following info with all of you:
 
 
We all know about the growth story of Infosys. How about the stock? Let’s find out. Infosys was founded by Narayana Murthy along with some others in 1981.

It came with an IPO in 1993 at the price of Rs. 95. Everybody who applied got the shares. Many missed the Diamond opportunity by not applying.  Suppose that a person applied for 100 Shares. It would cost him Rs. 9500. Let us assume that he is holding the same position till today. What will be the value now?

Let us calculate.

Remember that in these 17 years Infosys would have offered many dividends. Let us keep this aside and calculate the value of shares alone.

Soon after IPO, Infy  gave 1:1 bonus in 1994. So, our 100 shares will be 200 in 1994. Again they gave 1:1 bonus in 1996. That will take the count to 400 shares. And again in 1998 they offered bonus of 1:3 shares. That will take our count to 1600 shares.

In 2000, they split the stocks (Rs. 10 FC to Rs. 5 FC). This will take our count to 3200 shares. In 2004, again they announced 1:1 bonus. It will take our count to 6400 shares. Recently, in 2006 they gave bonus shares in the ratio of 1:1. Now, the count of ours would be 12800.

On 11/10/2010, I checked the CMP of Infosys. It’s Rs. 3070. So, what will be the value of our shares?

12800 x 3070 = Rs. 3,92,96,000 Yes, its Three Crores Ninety two Lakhs Ninety Six Thousand only.

What other investment would have taken to this level? Real-Estate? Bank Deposit? Gold? I don’t think so. A Bank deposit of Rs. 9500 in the same year at the rate of 12% would have hardly fetched us Rs.60,000 by this time.

 
But you have to spot a company for that. E.g. Patni has not grown as much. Some of the promising company of 1993 might not exists today.
 
Problem is how to spot it today so  that after 18 years i will have 3 crore. Which company ?
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Quote LearningToFly Replybullet Posted: 14/Jun/2011 at 11:50pm
More than spotting a company, how many of us have perseverance to wait for 18 years.

Edited by LearningToFly - 14/Jun/2011 at 11:50pm
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Quote tejas Replybullet Posted: 14/Jun/2011 at 12:46pm
So True. I am perfect example. I just could not wait to take some money off the table and in Hawkins as soon as it started cooking some profits.
Since it is a cooker company, it even cooks the profits really fast.
I can see the same dilemma faced by other investors in other stocks hitting new highs. I guess it is a new experience for most of us and we get scared of losing the gains we see on paper. TO quote from a post by Basantji on another thread.

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Reminisces of a Stock Operator – Edwin Lefevre

I call these sentences the thirteen commandments. Every investor, trader needs to go through them. These gospels from the master trader summarize the book.,
·        Never act on tips.
·        Never buy a stock because it has had a big decline from its previous high.
·        If a stock doesn't act right don't touch it; because, being unable to tell precisely what is wrong, you cannot tell which way it is going. No diagnosis, no prognosis. No prognosis, no profit.
·        Don't blame the market for your losses. Never add to a losing position. A losing position means you were wrong.
·        Stocks are never too high for you to begin buying or too low to begin selling. But after the initial transaction, don't make a second unless the first shows you a profit.
·        Always sell what shows you a loss and keep what shows you a profit.
·        Don't argue with the tape. Do not seek to lure the profit back. Quit while the quitting is good--and cheap.
·        There is only one side to the stock market; and it is not the bull side or the bear side but the right side.
·        The speculator's chief enemies are always boredom from within.
·        A man must believe in himself and his judgment if he expects to make a living at this game.
·        Bulls and bears make money, but pigs get slaughtered
·        Markets are never wrong. Opinions are!

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More than spotting a company, how many of us have perseverance to wait for 18 years.
    
Earnings, Earnings, Earnings.
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